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Post by Raven X Army on May 5, 2014 23:51:48 GMT
Another good way to compare is that the regular orange Bold is kind of see through (in s similar fashion that the dark yellow GB is) while the pink and mixed ones aren't. I think this is quite well visible in a scan I made a while ago and posted here somewhere else but here it is again. You can tell that the orange is definitely a sort of "see through" while the others aren't:  |
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Post by shrockmw on May 6, 2014 14:11:28 GMT
oh, interesting. I'll have to check that out! Thanks!
Oh of curiosity, what do you use to take your pictures? They always look so great!
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Post by Raven X Army on May 6, 2014 15:15:36 GMT
I recently don't take photos of records. I bought a big scanner. I think it works better for vinyl because it produces consistent images and most importantly it doesn't have the lens distortion.
I do love Geoff's f/1.4~f/1.8 bokeh shots though. They look really impressive. If you have even a semi-OK DSLR with a prime 35 or 50mm lens and f stop of less than 2 you can take some interesting pics as well. Look at Geoff's stuff for inspiration.
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Post by orangerory on May 6, 2014 15:20:14 GMT
I compared mine re: the see through test and it is way closer to Dobek's pink/orange mix.
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Post by Raven X Army on May 6, 2014 15:44:52 GMT
Maybe it's a scanner effect more than anything else?
When the light goes through the record and bounces off the black vinyl underneath?
And the pink and mix have enough white in the mix to stop the effect?
I don't know. It just came out like this in the scan.
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Post by geoff on May 6, 2014 15:54:34 GMT
I compared mine re: the see through test and it is way closer to Dobek's pink/orange mix. ive never really noticed the see through test, but im not too sure what its like. i will try and take a new photo of mine to see the differences. might be able to get a hold of some other bold records too. dobek is right though, the only way to know you have a mix is compare it to an orange. theres a ton of differences with the orange colors. there are many variances with them. i really hate this record from a collecting standpoint. there are so many people out there who think they have a mix just by the fact that they see pink in vinyl. it came to the point that i wouldnt even try to trade if they had one color copy in their collection. |
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Post by geoff on May 13, 2014 18:47:27 GMT
heres a couple photos taken at the same time. i didnt try and do anything fancy, just looking at the colors and the transparency that dobek was suggesting. this is one tough record to take a photo of and get accurate color.   |
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Post by reasontorevelate on May 13, 2014 20:43:11 GMT
Beautiful pictures, really gorgeous!!
And I only have a black copy haha.
Geoff, I think the difference with PoisonGirl's picture is the backlight.
Yours doesn't have any, so transparency is harder to see. Though in your top pic the top 2 and the one to the right of them seem transparent.
This record should require some kind of "protocol" to photograph to judge the amount of mix.
For instance: " take a pic of your orange copy with the black copy (label completely visible) behind it, taken against the sun, on a sunny day with clear sky"
Perhaps with some photoshop (or other program) you can then determine the amount of "darkness" on each, and calculate the "Bold index factor".
Hahahaha, I'm competing for the most nerdiest post ever here....
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Post by geoff on May 13, 2014 20:49:24 GMT
Beautiful pictures, really gorgeous!! And I only have a black copy haha. Geoff, I think the difference with PoisonGirl's picture is the backlight. Yours doesn't have any, so transparency is harder to see. Though in your top pic the top 2 and the one to the right of them seem transparent. This record should require some kind of "protocol" to photograph to judge the amount of mix. For instance: " take a pic of your orange copy with the black copy (label completely visible) behind it, taken against the sun, on a sunny day with clear sky" Perhaps with some photoshop (or other program) you can then determine the amount of "darkness" on each, and calculate the "Bold index factor". Hahahaha, I'm competing for the most nerdiest post ever here.... not matter how hard you try to accurately photograph that record, it will always come out looking different. thats why im so gun shy when people say they have a mix. most of the time they dont. the transparency thing is completely up to available light. those photos were taken seconds apart. one with flash the other without. so if you say that they arent transparent and are mixes, you know thats not the case. |
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Post by reasontorevelate on May 13, 2014 21:14:00 GMT
Yeah, and the angle is different too.
That's why the light and setting should be more standardized.
Indoor won't ever work, cause it'll always be different every time you have a different time of day, position in the house, flash or without, etc.
Also, I'm not declaring which of yours are/aren't transparent. I used the word seem for a reason.
Try taking 7 pics of 1 black and 1 coloured, against the sun. Then compare all the shots.
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Post by chungking48 on May 13, 2014 21:21:52 GMT
Recently I was talking to a lady at work who had been given some records by her uncle. She asked me the best way to sell them, as she was convinced they were worth something. I asked if she had anything rare, and she said that she had some Tom Jones record which her uncle thought was worth about a grand. "No it's not" I said confidently. People always think they have something better than they do. In the end I was right. It was worth about £10.
It's the same with Geoff and the Bold mix. Everyone thinks they have one, but Geoff sits there confidently saying "No, you don't" every time.
My new theory - Nobody has one. They don't exist. And the pink one is just a Burn 7" with a Bold label stuck on the top.
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Post by reasontorevelate on May 13, 2014 21:37:51 GMT
Wow, didn't expect Tom Jones to enter this thread lol
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Post by lordxhumungus on May 13, 2014 21:46:05 GMT
Tom Jones on pink mix
Anyway....
Pink, orange, peach whatever... Nice pics Geoff!!! I love seeing all the different shades side by side. Makes me want to buy one every time I see one for sale!
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Post by colintappe on May 14, 2014 17:25:26 GMT
Burn 7" with a Bold label stuck on the top. *adds to wantlist* |
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Post by nico on May 15, 2014 6:06:06 GMT
I would like a Bold 7" on color, regardless what color.
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Post by xmichelx on May 15, 2014 9:17:01 GMT
I would like a Bold 7" on color, regardless what color. Just to keep this thread running: I really love mine!   |
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Post by geoff on May 15, 2014 12:52:02 GMT
michel, is that the same or different record? its hard to tell.
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Post by Raven X Army on May 15, 2014 12:58:35 GMT
I think they're two different records. Michel. could you take one photo of the two together, preferable with regular orange throw in as well?  the auto colour balance or tones got set differently for each photograph when you took these in auto mode. You can see the label tone/colour is completely different in each picture which affected the colour of the wax as well. |
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Post by xmichelx on May 15, 2014 13:04:18 GMT
I think they're two different records. Michel. could you take one photo of the two together, preferable with regular orange throw in as well? the auto colour balance or tones got set differently for each photograph when you took these in auto mode. You can see the label tone/colour is completely different in each picture which affected the colour of the wax as well. You're right. It's only one record. I'll take a new picture with a grey balance scale to confirm the correct colour! |
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Post by xmichelx on May 15, 2014 13:09:34 GMT
Another good way to compare is that the regular orange Bold is kind of see through (in s similar fashion that the dark yellow GB is) while the pink and mixed ones aren't. I think this is quite well visible in a scan I made a while ago and posted here somewhere else but here it is again. You can tell that the orange is definitely a sort of "see through" while the others aren't: Mine is like the third from the left... It's no "see through" vinyl ;-) |
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Post by Raven X Army on May 15, 2014 13:19:07 GMT
Wow.. the photos were so different I thought they were two different records lol
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Post by lordxhumungus on May 15, 2014 13:24:42 GMT
Wow.. the photos were so different I thought they were two different records lol
Wow me too... you really can't photograph this record accurately
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Post by geoff on May 15, 2014 14:16:33 GMT
Another good way to compare is that the regular orange Bold is kind of see through (in s similar fashion that the dark yellow GB is) while the pink and mixed ones aren't. I think this is quite well visible in a scan I made a while ago and posted here somewhere else but here it is again. You can tell that the orange is definitely a sort of "see through" while the others aren't: Mine is like the third from the left... It's no "see through" vinyl ;-) you cant really use the 'no see through' as a basis because it really depends on the light (for the most part). the only way you can really tell is to collect the orange, pink, and mix. so everyone..... best get busy! your photo on left looks like an orange to me but the photo on the right looks like a mix. maybe because thats the most swirly part of record? either way, i still hate this record from a collecting standpoint. i got burned once trying to buy a mix. i received photos that looked like yours, did my homework and thought it was a mix. the guy even said he had another record collector look at it. when i received the record, it was just plain old orange. the swirls matched up perfectly from the photo, so it wasnt a bait and switch. the guy refused to give me back my money and i ended up keeping it. its one of those orange ones in the photo above. lesson learned. the bold on orange use to be a $10 record for the longest time, now its gone up considerably. the pink bold was purchased without seeing a photo, but got it for a real bargain in the late 90's. ps, if you have a bold on color, take a photo of it please and post it here. i want to see more photos. michel thank you for posting yours! |
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Post by lordxhumungus on May 15, 2014 15:40:41 GMT
I just got my orange vinyl a few months ago. Here's a pic that I took (cropped out the green Chain 7" that I bought around the same time)
I left the cover in the pic for reference. Nice late afternoon natural lighting...
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Post by troytilldeath on May 15, 2014 17:46:22 GMT
Dobek is that a white spot in the black?
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