Moved: SOIA Conne Island press

[billy69]

I'd like to give you some informations about the REV 3 "Conne Island" press.

330 pressed on gold vinyl exclusively made for the SOIA show on March 12th 2016 at the Conne Island in Leipzig/Germany.

To celebrate 25 years of Conne Island and 30 years of SOIA the 7" comes with an altered layout (pictures of SOIA shows at Conne Island between 1994 and 2001) and a show flyer, is hand numbered and stamped.
The 7"s was only sold at the Leipzig show, except of 25 I'll donate at the Jon Bunch Memorial Show in Santa Ana.

Here the numbering:

001 - 025 not for sell, only for the band and people involved. They were numbered in red ink, came with two different Batman stamps (one on the dust sleeve and one on the label) and a exclusive shirt only made for/sold at the show.

026 - 099 with a Batman stamp on the dust sleeve (only sold to friends and crew)

100 - 199 with a Robin stamp on the dust sleeve

200 - 300 with a Catwoman stamp on the dust sleeve

301 - 330 Revelation Records archives

[billy69]

Mar 13, 2016 23:51:06 GMT billy69 said:

I'd like to give you some informations about the REV 3 "Conne Island" press.

330 pressed on gold vinyl exclusively made for the SOIA show on March 12th 2016 at the Conne Island in Leipzig/Germany.

To celebrate 25 years of Conne Island and 30 years of SOIA the 7" comes with an altered layout (pictures of SOIA shows at Conne Island between 1994 and 2001) and a show flyer, is hand numbered and stamped.
The 7"s was only sold at the Leipzig show, except of 25 I'll donate at the Jon Bunch Memorial Show in Santa Ana.

Here the numbering:

001 - 025 not for sell, only for the band and people involved. They were numbered in red ink, came with two different Batman stamps (one on the dust sleeve and one on the label) and a exclusive shirt only made for/sold at the show.

026 - 099 with a Batman stamp on the dust sleeve (only sold to friends and crew)

100 - 199 with a Robin stamp on the dust sleeve

200 - 300 with a Catwoman stamp on the dust sleeve

301 - 330 Revelation Records archives

[circlestorm69]

This is even beyond Gilman! Hahaha.
One is not enough. 5 you must have! ;-)

[geoff]

Mar 14, 2016 21:22:30 GMT circlestorm69 said:

This is even beyond Gilman! Hahaha.
One is not enough. 5 you must have! ;-)

no, 5 is just silly. this was manufactured by a person whos not the label and not the band? making things purposely rare by adding stamps? if it were different colors of the vinyl i would agree. but stamps? sorry. one will do this die hard rev collector just fine. unless theres some great story behind lou and pete stamping these. haha. with all of that said. i honestly hope to own one, and i will eventually. they do look good.

also this thread is in the wrong spot.

[chungking48]

Con island more like.

[Raven X Army]

I updated the pressing info in the pressing thread and moved this conversation here
Marcus = lol

[paolo]

Mar 15, 2016 22:36:47 GMT chungking48 said:

Con island more like.

hahahahaha! Seriously, pressing info should be 330 made, with various stamps. period. who cares about catwoman or batman.
said that, I need one just as everybody else. will trade.

[jeff]

I'm curious why this is one is getting slayed and the Burn in London didn't. Aren't they both manufactured rarities?

[geoff]

Mar 16, 2016 12:55:56 GMT jeff said:

I'm curious why this is one is getting slayed and the Burn in London didn't. Aren't they both manufactured rarities?

slayed is kind of harsh, disappointed would be my term of choice.

now, the burn 7" was a hot mess. the soia took what was bad about the burn 7" and made it worse. 5 different versions spread out of only 330 pressed? so many different versions, it seems pretty lame. rev hasnt ever done something like this, nor has soia.

i really hope the cover of the soia record isnt a cheap digital print. anyone have one?

[jeff]

I agree, the SOIA is a little ridiculous with all the different variations. My only point is that I didn't see any criticism of the Burn 7" at all. It seemed like people were universally psyched on that whereas the SOIA is generating somewhat negative feedback.

Overall I think it's kind of strange that these 7"s even exist. But, I was planning to listen to the Ray & Porcell 7" here at my house next weekend. Maybe I'll press up a few hundred records for the occasion!

[thexessence]

Now just to clarify something here - we didn't aim to confuse anyone with Burn 7" for London show. In fact, we didn't think of "collectors" at all. It was an idea to make this show unique and the record meant to be something cool available on that particular show only. I, personally, couldn't give a fuck about ridiculous red/black marker numbers I keep hearing about. 

This is the only valid pressing info: 
330 pressed. 300 stamped and numbered for London show on October 4th, 2015.

1-40 reserved for the band, friends and people who helped with the show. Comes with sticker, flyer, additional dust sleeve and stamp. Not for sale.

41-300 sold at the show.

Remaining 30 copies stayed at Rev HQ (Burn/Revelation archives)

Having said that, I need that SOIA Conne Island 7" - and I'll trade it for Burn on purple. I don't care about stamp or any of that bullshit. Get at me. 

[shrockmw]

Does seem a bit strange to only sell the SOIA at this one show, but to make so many versions that are meant to appeal to the hardcore (pardon the pun) collectors.

I'm all for rewarding the people that make it to the shows, but seems like this is being made to drive hype.

That said, they are pressing them, they can make whatever they want. Maybe one day we will all start collecting "Revelation Sanctioned Releases"

That said, if someone were to grab me a copy of this SOIA I'd be stoked.

[thexessence]

Mar 16, 2016 15:39:52 GMT shrockmw said:

Does seem a bit strange to only sell the SOIA at this one show, but to make so many versions that are meant to appeal to the hardcore (pardon the pun) collectors.

I'm all for rewarding the people that make it to the shows, but seems like this is being made to drive hype.

That said, they are pressing them, they can make whatever they want. Maybe one day we will all start collecting "Revelation Sanctioned Releases"

That said, if someone were to grab me a copy of this SOIA I'd be stoked.

Hold on a second. You're missing a point - specific records are being available at particular shows since 80s. Nothings wrong with that. Release show covers, selected colors, stamps and all that jazz - welcome to hardcore. Bands/labels used to do this to celebrate the event, nowadays often a tool and excuse to get rid of more records.

I understand it was 30th annv of very respected and well known venue in Germany. It was a great way to make it dope. These guys also had some fun with stamping all these records and making fool of you guys. Intentionally of not... Surely it's not as band as hand written labels on PX 7".  

[jeff]

Who paid for the Burn or SOIA records to be manufactured? The bands, Revelation or the guys doing the shows?

[geoff]

Mar 16, 2016 15:51:11 GMT thexessence said:

Mar 16, 2016 15:39:52 GMT shrockmw said:

Does seem a bit strange to only sell the SOIA at this one show, but to make so many versions that are meant to appeal to the hardcore (pardon the pun) collectors.

I'm all for rewarding the people that make it to the shows, but seems like this is being made to drive hype.

That said, they are pressing them, they can make whatever they want. Maybe one day we will all start collecting "Revelation Sanctioned Releases"

That said, if someone were to grab me a copy of this SOIA I'd be stoked.

Hold on a second. You're missing a point - specific records are being available at particular shows since 80s. Nothings wrong with that. Release show covers, selected colors, stamps and all that jazz - welcome to hardcore. Bands/labels used to do this to celebrate the event, nowadays often a tool and excuse to get rid of more records.

I understand it was 30th annv of very respected and well known venue in Germany. It was a great way to make it dope. These guys also had some fun with stamping all these records and making fool of you guys. Intentionally of not... Surely it's not as band as hand written labels on PX 7".  

easy there slick. you dont know their intentions so take it back a notch. insinuating insults over this thread is not needed. i know youre annoyed because of the burn 7" being mentioned, but really .....slow down.

my question to you, how many burn 7"s do you actually have left? (you offered one for trade)

[thexessence]

Geoff, how did I actually manage to insult you? By saying that someone was fucking with record collectors? Seriously. 

Believe or not I'm NOT annoyed and I have zero intentions to argue with anyone over a record. I thought it only makes sense to state that no one was trying to make it more difficult for you folks by using different marker.

 

[geoff]

Mar 16, 2016 16:21:44 GMT thexessence said:

Geoff, how did I actually manage to insult you? By saying that someone was fucking with record collectors? Seriously. 

Believe or not I'm NOT annoyed and I have zero intentions to argue with anyone over a record. I thought it only makes sense to state that no one was trying to make it more difficult for you folks by using different marker.

 

you didnt insult me. i just showing you in bold how things got a little silly. theres no need for this thread to get hostile. its an open conversation.

slight addition..... this isnt about the burn 7" its about the soia 7". notice there really hasnt been much said about it.

[shrockmw]

Mar 16, 2016 15:51:11 GMT thexessence said:

Mar 16, 2016 15:39:52 GMT shrockmw said:

Does seem a bit strange to only sell the SOIA at this one show, but to make so many versions that are meant to appeal to the hardcore (pardon the pun) collectors.

I'm all for rewarding the people that make it to the shows, but seems like this is being made to drive hype.

That said, they are pressing them, they can make whatever they want. Maybe one day we will all start collecting "Revelation Sanctioned Releases"

That said, if someone were to grab me a copy of this SOIA I'd be stoked.

Hold on a second. You're missing a point - specific records are being available at particular shows since 80s. Nothings wrong with that. Release show covers, selected colors, stamps and all that jazz - welcome to hardcore. Bands/labels used to do this to celebrate the event, nowadays often a tool and excuse to get rid of more records.

I understand it was 30th annv of very respected and well known venue in Germany. It was a great way to make it dope. These guys also had some fun with stamping all these records and making fool of you guys. Intentionally of not... Surely it's not as band as hand written labels on PX 7".  

How am I missing the point of bands making records for shows? I literally said "I'm all for rewarding the people that make it to the shows."

It certainly wasn't my intention to railroad anyone. I thought I did a decent job of saying my opinion, and then noting that my opinion isn't important—it's what the people making the record want.

Sorry if it came across that I was insulting your Burn record. It's cool. I have one. Good job with that. I don't know what color my ink is written in. I'm also not really worried about it. But I appreciate that you took the initiative to give back to the scene.

Just saying that these things are done for hype. That's fine. It's not an insult. Know your market. Hand #'d, limited color vinyl will drive collectors up the wall trying to find one. I know this because I'm one of those collectors. Most of us here are.

Records are cool, and so are people. So let's just be cool people and talk about records.

[deluxxx777]

This repress bring out bad feelings, because it's really cool and each one wants to get one! Me first.
First thing i've done : contacting revelation and ask for one of the 30 leftovers... still no reply.
I think we're a lot of collectors, we buy from revelation through the years and many of us have an incredible collection, would be nice create a fan club sorta, together with revelation, that helps the most crazy collectors with that kind of thing like record release show, exclusive pressing, etc...
It would not be a good way to go?

[geoff]

i agree, it does bring out strong emotions.

the fan club would never happen, but would be fun. .... rule one: to be a member you have to take photo of you and every single rev release (in any form cd, tape record) haha this includes the bluebird 12". then super members would need to have every release on colored vinyl. junior members could just stick with rev 1-23. haha

[Raven X Army]

I still have my victory swingin singles (or whatever it was called) laminated membership ID card lol

[deluxxx777]

Mar 17, 2016 12:31:52 GMT geoff said:

i agree, it does bring out strong emotions.

the fan club would never happen, but would be fun. .... rule one: to be a member you have to take photo of you and every single rev release (in any form cd, tape record) haha this includes the bluebird 12". then super members would need to have every release on colored vinyl. junior members could just stick with rev 1-23. haha

Haha, it seems too much exclusive!
I've though something easier: closed number of 100 members, and you need have 100 rev records to become a member.
More details to define...
I've Just messaged to revelation, I don't know if it will work,(probably not) but i tried anyways, who knows?
Try something is better than do nothing!

[xjoergx]

Mar 16, 2016 13:34:59 GMT geoff said:

slayed is kind of harsh, disappointed would be my term of choice.

now, the burn 7" was a hot mess. the soia took what was bad about the burn 7" and made it worse. 5 different versions spread out of only 330 pressed? so many different versions, it seems pretty lame. rev hasnt ever done something like this, nor has soia.  
Hm...are you sure?      7th press : 555 clear vinyl (Record Store Day 2010)
These were pressed for Record Store Day 2010 and we used
the 45rpm plates from the first pressing's mastering and
some old leftover print that we had in the vault. The
labels were printed using the original artwork from one of
the earlier 45 rpm pressings. Here's the breakdown:
293 old fold-over covers with band name in red and old insert
150 new glued, non-glossy covers and 1997 insert
83 old fold-over covers with band name in black and old insert
29 old glued, high-gloss covers and old insert

[geoff]

Mar 18, 2016 11:11:18 GMT xjoergx said:

Mar 16, 2016 13:34:59 GMT geoff said:

slayed is kind of harsh, disappointed would be my term of choice.

now, the burn 7" was a hot mess. the soia took what was bad about the burn 7" and made it worse. 5 different versions spread out of only 330 pressed? so many different versions, it seems pretty lame. rev hasnt ever done something like this, nor has soia.  
Hm...are you sure?      7th press : 555 clear vinyl (Record Store Day 2010)
These were pressed for Record Store Day 2010 and we used
the 45rpm plates from the first pressing's mastering and
some old leftover print that we had in the vault. The
labels were printed using the original artwork from one of
the earlier 45 rpm pressings. Here's the breakdown:
293 old fold-over covers with band name in red and old insert
150 new glued, non-glossy covers and 1997 insert
83 old fold-over covers with band name in black and old insert
29 old glued, high-gloss covers and old insert

postive. youre correct in thinking that, it could be the closest example. the difference is, those are old stock sleeves from previous pressings. combined with the original old stock plates. not a different color pen ink, not a different stamp either bought for a couple dollars. the sleeves werent some after thought to make things more rare. those are quality original professionally printed sleeves that were over a decade old. the same exact ones we have in our collections already.

(joergx youre a post machine! well done.)

[jeff]

The other difference is that the RSD SOIA 7"s were an official Rev release whereas these new SOIA and Burn pressings seem like Rev-sanctioned releases, as someone else said.

The idea of kids contacting Rev and getting them to press records for a show in their town is neat and totally DIY but at the same time they are manufactured rarities in my opinion.