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Post by morethanfashion on Aug 25, 2016 21:02:08 GMT
I was curious as to what bands or people you considered to be the earliest straight edgers but not from the USA because we all know that already..(it was ted nugent) was it LARM was it AYS, or Dig at earache records?,maybe was it you! let me know your thoughts...
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Post by morethanfashion on Aug 26, 2016 17:43:26 GMT
probably didn't pick the hottest topic here..!
from a uk standpont..yes digby person was actually early Straight Edge,although probably packed it in ages ago. There were afew from the Merseyside, one of them did the fanzine "out of step" in 1983, kim mullan was another originally from new Zealand but moved to the uk, I think she lived with the singer from AdmitYourShit, a SE band,of sorts..although nowadays their singer is known mostly for being an alleged fascist. I heard spike the singer from Depression, an australian band, was the first over their..an i'm sure Italy had afew as they were early into American HC..the singer from crashbox X'ed his hands
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Post by chungking48 on Aug 26, 2016 18:17:20 GMT
Probably none of us are old enough, or non amerocan enough to know. And I don't think it's the kind of thing that has really been documented tbh. I could be wrong on that front though.
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Post by geoff on Aug 26, 2016 19:32:28 GMT
im with marcus. im not old enough to know. also, im just too 'american' to know.
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Post by chris2far on Aug 26, 2016 20:06:11 GMT
I would say the straight edge movement arrived more or less in the mid 80 in europe.
I know that italy had lots of hc bands in that period and skandinavia too.
But which where the first to claim edge i cant say.
Here in switzerland it was all about hellhammer, celtic frost, samael and messiah. But not that much about hardcore 😜
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Post by lins87 on Aug 28, 2016 23:46:26 GMT
I was curious as to what bands or people you considered to be the earliest straight edgers but not from the USA because we all know that already..(it was ted nugent) was it LARM was it AYS, or Dig at earache records?,maybe was it you! let me know your thoughts... Tommy and Ed from the Stupids and John from Heresy were all straight edge. Maybe Larm in Europe. One of the original punk bands , Chelsea , had a song called Right to Work with the line "I don't do drugs and I don't drink beer" way back in the 77/78 though!!! |
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Post by morethanfashion on Sept 1, 2016 21:00:59 GMT
I wasn't being anti-American I just presumed the history of american straight edge is pretty well known? and I am sure even "young" people know of Teen idles/harDCore/SSD etc
Tommy of the stupids said he was straight edge but smoked I think but they had that SE vibe in a scene that was still predominately about drinking& taking drugs
I didn't know about that Chelsea song..very funny
actually bill from carcass didn't drink and was vegan..but from videos online hes back on the booze!
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Post by morethanfashion on Sept 1, 2016 22:14:13 GMT
I just remembered acouple of early HC bands who SE inclined
from Switzerland; G.K.H. they only had 1 song on one of the FLIPSIDE comps, also did the fanzine STERIL one of them was the top skaters there
From australia:Civil Dissident. try and checkout there "4th rate American thrash" tape..its fucking great
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Post by thexessence on Sept 6, 2016 17:57:01 GMT
Larm/Total Chaos were around from 81/82 which puts them right on the top of the pile.
There is no other euro band that would use this term before those cats (that I'm aware of).
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Post by reasontorevelate on Sept 6, 2016 19:00:19 GMT
I would say the straight edge movement arrived more or less in the mid 80 in europe. I know that italy had lots of hc bands in that period and skandinavia too. But which where the first to claim edge i cant say. Here in switzerland it was all about hellhammer, celtic frost, samael and messiah. But not that much about hardcore 😜 Profax..!...comes to mind. Although they were late 80's. |
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Post by reasontorevelate on Sept 6, 2016 19:10:16 GMT
Larm/Total Chaos were around from 81/82 which puts them right on the top of the pile. There is no other euro band that would use this term before those cats (that I'm aware of). I agree on Lärm too... From Gabriel Kuhn's book, page 47: Paul (Lärm): "When Minor Threat hit the punk scene and sxe was introduced, we embraced it because we already were more or less "straightedge": we didn't drink or smoke and we didn't do drugs and fuck around...." |
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Post by morethanfashion on Sept 6, 2016 20:36:59 GMT
some of INDIGESTI might have been SE and they were a great band in '82, but yeah..Larm were probably the first SE band outside the u.s.a.,and most importantly they stuck with it unlike many mentioned here who lost their Edge after a year or two
I found a copy of a fanzine Tommy(of the stupids) did from 84 an he was totally straight edge then..he didn't smoke
Peter Cross from Liverpool is still SE since 1982..he put on gigs at the planet-x club in the 80s.
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Post by morethanfashion on Sept 6, 2016 21:44:49 GMT
I just dug out INDIGESTI's "Squardo Realta"(Hysterya prodotto htr 01) from late 1982?/early 83 tape which contains a booklet with a drawing of an X'ed hand..an of course they had an EP prior to that (w/wretched) making them contenders for the 1st euro SE along with Total Chaoz/LARM
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