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Post by Raven X Army on Jun 9, 2016 1:39:29 GMT
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Post by ferry on Jun 9, 2016 5:29:24 GMT
Wow this is some serious shit and makes me shiver. I have some tests bought from him... And no, I am not selling them but it makes me think...
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Post by paolo on Jun 9, 2016 6:53:36 GMT
holy sheet I thought Dobek was joking but this stuff is seriously dark and demeaning....
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Post by colintappe on Jun 9, 2016 7:41:20 GMT
14 is like, middle aged to G Glitter
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Post by takemeaway89 on Jun 9, 2016 7:54:41 GMT
Some of the comments are downright disgusting. Makes me glad that I'm old and have hardly anything to do with the current hardcore scene.
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Post by Raven X Army on Jun 9, 2016 10:03:43 GMT
I scrolled very quickly through the comments. I've only skimmed through and from what I noticed they divide in 3 sections:
1. People who are disgusted with Jim and support that girl
2. People who back Jim
3. People who pretend to be someone else in order to make a clever comment:
Karl Buckner here, please listen to Earth Crisis. Please. My rent is overdue
Or
Aaron Bebird here, would anyone blame me for hitting on underage girls? I look like a rock with oversized clothes.
All I can carry out of this bizarre event is the feeling that I completely and utterly do not get the sense of humour of people under 20, which I should imagine would be the vast majority of individuals caring enough to comment on the issue.
Doesn't anyone read PG Wodehouse anymore?
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Post by takemeaway89 on Jun 9, 2016 12:27:10 GMT
One of the comments in defense of Jim goes along the lines of 'I hope you get raped properly'. I mean I don't know who's right or wrong in this situation but there's no need for that.
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Post by chungking48 on Jun 9, 2016 13:24:28 GMT
I just skim read some of the comments and I have to say some of them made me laugh. Not any of the 'serious' posts, but those posts that started 'it's blah here...'
I'm sure this kind of stuff has probably happened quite a bit in the last few years. Back in my day there were very few girls at shows, but these days there are noticeably lots more, with some looking (to me at least) quite young. I've no doubt that some guys in bands like to enjoy their 'fame' and the perks it brings in terms of female attention.
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Post by chris2far on Jun 9, 2016 14:12:03 GMT
I scrolled very quickly through the comments. I've only skimmed through and from what I noticed they divide in 3 sections: 1. People who are disgusted with Jim and support that girl 2. People who back Jim 3. People who pretend to be someone else in order to make a clever comment: Karl Buckner here, please listen to Earth Crisis. Please. My rent is overdue Or Aaron Bebird here, would anyone blame me for hitting on underage girls? I look like a rock with oversized clothes. All I can carry out of this bizarre event is the feeling that I completely and utterly do not get the sense of humour of people under 20, which I should imagine would be the vast majority of individuals caring enough to comment on the issue. Doesn't anyone read PG Wodehouse anymore? Thats pretty funny thou. I know that he likes to hit on girls but mostly gets rejected. I wonder why? Aaron Bebird here, would anyone blame me for hitting on underage girls? I look like a rock with oversized clothes. |
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Post by colintappe on Jun 9, 2016 17:49:09 GMT
Guys, you're reading anonymous comments on a heavy metal clickbait site, let's not misconstrue that nonsense for what any real human being actually thinks, let alone as any kind of indicator of the current climate of "the scene"
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Post by orangerory on Jun 9, 2016 18:36:34 GMT
You can read Charlie Stone's actual post on FB. It is public. Tons of positive comments there supporting her and others who spoke out.
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Post by runexjustanotherday on Jun 9, 2016 19:03:09 GMT
He has been kicked out of True Identity and the band has dissolved.
Ev also stated that they are no longer affiliated with React! Records.
Jim has also shut down his social media accounts.
It looks really bad when the band, the label and himself are taking these actions, I'm afraid.
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Post by deluxxx777 on Jun 9, 2016 19:44:59 GMT
Really a bad thread.
I'll never understand people who acting like that.
"True identity"....
Glad that I don't like champion and true id., would be difficult listen to these records with the same feeling.
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Post by paolo on Jun 10, 2016 6:26:37 GMT
Glad that I don't like champion and true id., would be difficult listen to these records with the same feeling. Sure the feeling in listening the Champion can't be the same, especially in these first days when the news are still fresh and the situation is still having an evolution.... but at the end, we go to see reunion shows of bands that used to be straight edge, hard edge or true till death and still sing those songs when they have non-edge members who turned their backs on what the songs they're singing stood for... so what I mean is - if we are looking for "purity" in the bands we listen to, by the same token, we shouldn't support many of the popular bands of today. |
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Post by Raven X Army on Jun 10, 2016 12:27:00 GMT
Glad that I don't like champion and true id., would be difficult listen to these records with the same feeling. Sure the feeling in listening the Champion can't be the same, especially in these first days when the news are still fresh and the situation is still having an evolution.... but at the end, we go to see reunion shows of bands that used to be straight edge, hard edge or true till death and still sing those songs when they have non-edge members who turned their backs on what the songs they're singing stood for... so what I mean is - if we are looking for "purity" in the bands we listen to, by the same token, we shouldn't support many of the popular bands of today. Seems like a sound reasoning, however, I'd argue that there's at least a slight difference between a chap who didn't drink at 20 and started to indulge in an occasional beer or some wine at 30 and a chap who at around 30 tries to poke with his knob, with or without consent, the orifices of a child freshly out of primary school. Saying that, CHAMPION were the 2nd best group of the early 00s. Right after The Promise. |
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Post by takemeaway89 on Jun 11, 2016 7:51:55 GMT
This has been posted now via facebook.
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As everyone knows Jim Hesketh of Champion has just had the lid blown off his not so secret years of preying on underage girls in and likely out of the HC community. Sadly he is not the first or the last member of our community to do this. I have been talking about this for YEARS and no one has acknowledged or taken what I say seriously. I can only presume that is due to a combination of who he is, and who I am. So while we're on the topic of child molesters.
While living in Boston Sweet Pete was "dating" a 15 year old girl. He was already well into his 30s. He also had a repuation for hitting on extremely young girls, again no one said anything. This was something that was not hidden, everyone knew and either turned a blind eye or made excuses for it. One of my favorites was "Its not like there's a lot of HC girls his age so he has no choice but to date young girls".
As we have all seen within these past few days. "Men" like this are sexual predators and con artists. There is no doubt that worse skeletons lie in his deep dark closet. I beg that everyone continue to finally stand up against this. Don't just stand up to Jim Hesketh. Don't just run Jim out of our scene. Run all the Jims out of our scene. It is our duty and responsibility to keep each other safe. We are a subculter that talks about being above the rest of the world. Protecting our own, zero tolerance for sexual predators. So do it. Fuck who they are, who they know, what band they're in.
Sweet Pete is a sexual predator and it should not be ignored. I know I will lose friends over this and maybe even get my ass kicked, but I don't care. Its worth it to protect future girls from these foul bastards. At their requests I have blacked out the names of these women until they are comfortable enough to come forward. I hope this gives girls the courage to step forward. If not, I'll sleep well knowning I tried. #zerotoleranceforsexualpredators
Sadly, I doubt this will be shared or get the attention it should.
Update 6/10: I have received an overwhelming response since I made this post. Multiple women have contacted me in regards to sexual encounters with Pete ranging in ages from 13 - 17. Unfortunately only one of them has felt comfortable enough to come forward at this time and out of respect I will not reveal their names until they give me the ok. I can not explain how infuriating it is for me to hear these girls speak and know they are to afriad to come forward for a multitude of reasons. I want to make something clear. As a child, you are not responsible for a grown mans actions. There is a reason laws against statutory rape exist. A grown ass man in his 30s knows better than to have sex with a 15 year old girl, regardless if she or her fucking parents give the ok.
"Hey yeah I fucked a 15 year old while in my 30s but her parents said it was ok". Many have children now. What would you do if a man or woman in their 30s had sex with your child when they were 17, 15, 13? Let that sink in.'
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Post by Raven X Army on Jun 11, 2016 11:32:02 GMT
Wow... It turns out the can of worms that Charlie girl opened could be the size of at least Argentinosaurus huinculensis.
This is shaping up to be the stampedo (see what I did there ha!) of the 21st century.
Anyone willing to take bets who's next? Would shitting on 12 year olds qualify as pedophilia? If yes then someone please nominate GG Allin and post details on facebook.
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Post by minoratheart on Jun 12, 2016 11:09:22 GMT
Seems like a sound reasoning, however, I'd argue that there's at least a slight difference between a chap who didn't drink at 20 and started to indulge in an occasional beer or some wine at 30 and a chap who at around 30 tries to poke with his knob, with or without consent, the orifices of a child freshly out of primary school. This. I couldn't care less about someone breaking edge and then coming back to sing songs carrying a message that meant a lot to them when they were teenagers or in their early twenties. Straight Edge is a personal choice and people change, so what? But this is about harming other people, some of whom were at a very vulnerable age, in incredibly despicable ways. |
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Post by reasontorevelate on Dec 1, 2016 21:42:13 GMT
Just wondering if there is any news on this matter, as I haven't read anything about this since last summer?
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