YOT CCME 7" variation

[brianflynn]

Maybe this is somewhere out there, but I have not seen it. Feel free to chime in if you know of anything different. In every version of the official Rev list up to 6.06 it lists the CCME 7" as this:

Youth of Today
Can't Close My Eyes : 7"
Positive Force 4
1985
1st press : black vinyl
Red lettering on sleeve, black and white labels, paper
insert. A number of the 1st press came with a sticker.
2nd press : black vinyl
White lettering on sleeve, blue and white labels, glossy
insert. There are also black and white labels with this
sleeve which may or may not be another pressing.
3rd press : 100 black vinyl
Special press for Some Records in NYC. Plain white labels
with "Some Records" stamped across A-Side.
4th press : 100 orange vinyl
The final press of the 7" released by Revelation records.
These were made by Jordan and Ray to trade for toys. The
only press of the 7" on colored vinyl and contains a small
Batman insignia on front sleeve, B-side label, and inner
record sleeve.

Attached here is a picture of a 2nd press sleeve with blue labels, and what I believe is a third press sleeve with black labels (that Kevin is unsure of above). This would make the Some Records pressing the 4th press, and the 5th press the orange.

If you look at the black label sleeve, the front artwork is scaled up slightly and shifted left to fit. The YOT name is now almost touching the top left corner, and the white "towel" coming down from the microphone is cut nearly in half. At first glance it's hard to even notice a difference, but once you notice it, you always see it. It is at least a full 1/4" move to the left, so that is not an accidental cut, it is moved over intentionally, as the right hand edge is consistent on both sleeves. 

Any thoughts on this one?

[lordxhumungus]

I found this on Discogs. I don't know if it's accurate or not but it definitely has different info on it.  Again, I have no idea if this is completely fabricated or whatever:

Test pressing: 1985
8 were made for this release

1st Pressing: 1985
Black vinyl, red logo on the front cover, black and white labels, thin paper lyric sheet (these were printed in Ray’s brother’s high school printing class). Some copies came with a sticker, some had handwritten messages on the lyric sheet. The messages were done by John, Ray or Jordan Cooper.

Later Pressings:
It is impossible to determine how many pressings in total were made. Both John and Ray do not remember exact numbers and chronology. Ray thinks there were anything between 3000 to 5000 records pressed on Positive Force in total. The number of pressings below is assumed and based solely on the differences found in covers/lyric sheets etc. and should be taken as such:

2nd pressing: 1986
Black vinyl, black and white cover, black and white labels, thicker semi-glossy insert.

3rd pressing: 1986/1987
Black vinyl, black and white cover, black and white labels, photocopied insert with different photos.
This was the pressing the band took on their 1987 Break Down The Walls tour with them. It looked exactly like the 2nd one but the inserts this time were photocopied and the photos / layout were different. According to RJ, who along with CIV went on that tour with YOT, in one of the boxes they found around 12 to 20 copies with blank B-side labels. Most likely a pressing plant error. They did some drawings or a cut and paste "art" on most of those and sold them or gave away to friends during the tour.

4th pressing: 1987
Black vinyl, black and white cover, blue and white labels, thicker insert.
This is what most generally consider to be the 2nd pressing but it has to be at least 4th and this is based on absolutely no real facts whatsoever other than the final, gold vinyl pressing had blue labels so it would make sense that this one was done just before.

5th pressing: 1987
100 made on black vinyl for Some Records in NYC. Came with a photocopied, stamped cover and thicker, semi-glossy insert. Vinyl has white labels rubber stamped with one or two different "Some Records" stamps.
47 out of the 100 pressed were hand numbered. Some of the numbered copies were personalized by Duane (Some Records) or the members of the band.

6th pressing: 1987
100 reissued on gold vinyl by Jordan and Ray to trade for toys. Black and white covers, blue and white A label and blank B label. Stamped with Batman stamp on the cover, dust sleeve and blank B-label. Some had written messages on the labels, few were found with different stamps: Dinosaur, Superman etc...
also, some of the gold vinyl is plain clear and some were found with many small black specks in the wax.

Odd version:
Some copies with both blank labels were found. These come on black vinyl with black and white cover and thicker semi-glossy insert so they could be the effect of the pressing plant error for either the 2nd or the 4th pressing. These are sometimes being mis-represented as the test pressings for this release. This is NOT correct. The true test pressings had the pressing plant labels. They were not blank.

[Raven X Army]

That pressing info is mine. I posted it on discogs a long while back.
Since I have found more things/corrections.
I am working on a new better record collecting blog with better scans and better descriptions.
When it's done it will contain (probably) the most accurate YOT/JUDGE pressing information on the Internet.
In any case those differences in sleeves are not unusual.

All of the the blue labels and SOME and orange vinyl pressings have the extra space. The rest have sleeves cut just where the Y begins.
Which only confirms my theory that the last 3 presses were:
- blue labels
- some
- orange vinyl

as these are the ones where they "fixed" the badly cropped cover design.
All the other ones are earlier presses.

[Raven X Army]

On the related note:
Did anyone ever notice that Richie has been decapitated for the 7" cover?



His head came back for the Schism 12"



and then disappeared again for the recent REV represses.
Richie once told me who the greening guy on the right was but I can't fucking remember his name. I think he said the guy did some zine but I may be mis-remembering this as well as it was quite a few years ago.

[colintappe]

Want a Some Rex press and blank b-side

[Raven X Army]

I need the UN-numbered Some pressing and the test press.
Kevin Seconds once set up one of these money making things (on kickstarer I think??) where you get people to send you money for whatever you wanna do. I think he wanted to buy a touring van ()
Anyway, lad came up with a wide variety of pledges. If you send a dollar you'll get Kevin's signature on his used toilet paper or whatever, I can't remember any except for the one where he said he will perform in your living room in front of you, your family and friends. I can't remember how much that was. $300 or something? Plus the cost of getting him to wherever you live. US ONLY I guess. I think his goal was $2000?? Or was it $5000 and he still had $2000 to go? I really can't remember.

What I do remember is that I looked up his contact info somewhere. I can't remember if someone off LWB gave me his email or I found him on facebook or something, anyway, I just wrote him that I will give him the $2000 in exchange for the YOT CCME test pressing if he had any left so he can go and buy himself a van. Today.

Never got a reply.

[Raven X Army]

HA!
Quick google search and I found it:


I should have looked that up before I posted about it.
It was $7K and he actually went well over the goal. Well done.

[xreganx]

I've got an un-numbered some records. I need a numbered one!

[Raven X Army]

[colintappe]

Need a Some Rex press bad

[Raven X Army]

Aug 9, 2014 8:08:25 GMT colintappe said:

Need a Some Rex press bad

Some blank B-sides for you Colin

[colintappe]

*like*

Those all yours? I swear every time I start to feel like I got a leg up in this game, this board slaps me with reality ACROSS THE FACE.

[Raven X Army]

lol
The AF one came from ebay - it was my first one.
Then I picked up the copy paste one from Al Barkley and soon after the other copy paste one from RJ - dude who went on that BDTW tour as a roadie along with CIV. It was on that tour that they found a bunch of these in the box.
The last copy I got was the Richie Underdog one and despite the fact it's the most recent one I acquired I am drawing a complete blank as to where it came from. It's starting to annoy me because I generally remember where I got all the records from.
It'll come back to me.

[Raven X Army]

Aug 9, 2014 11:34:16 GMT Raven X Army said:

Aug 9, 2014 8:08:25 GMT colintappe said:

Need a Some Rex press bad

Some blank B-sides for you Colin



The last copy I got was the Richie Underdog one and despite the fact it's the most recent one I acquired I am drawing a complete blank as to where it came from. It's starting to annoy me because I generally remember where I got all the records from.
It'll come back to me.

I just got an email from Brian Romanchuk saying he checked the rev board and that the YOT Richie record came from him.
I couple of years back into the old emails and found where he got it from lol:

Funny thing about this record is that I was sitting in the parking lot of a bar in 1987/88 with some friends and some guy came up to the car trying to sell some records. I bought this one and a GBH 7" off of him for cheap.

[paolo]

amazing story.... !! About funny stories, Once I had a punk friend in Rome who in the 80's used to go every summer in NYC, once he was at the rec. release show of the AF "United blood" 7" at CBGB's, the band threw for free several copies from the stage, and he actually was hit by one and grabbed it on the floor! Same guy went to meet Danzig in Albany, went to his home and found him in the garden, dressed in full Misfits look, while watering/taking care of the flowers.... a photo would have been amazing!
Back to YOT, I have been looking for a Some records copy for ages, was stupid enough to skip a chance I had last year, but other than that it's very difficult to track one, I think that several copies got lost/trashed back in the days, when people had no idea that it could become a 600$ record at some point....

[paolo]

finally I've put my hands on a Some records press! CCME updated colletion pic coming soon on IG!

[xreganx]

Nice! And it looks like you got one of the rarer numbered ones too. That's cool, I need a numbered one.

[paolo]

actually the labels are numbered 1 and 2, so it's not one of the numbered copies, I guess the numbering refers to the sides...and the dustsleeve is blank. this would be very easy to turn into a "numbered" copy, since the numbering is only some handwriting and not a stamp.... so personally I wouldn't pay much attention to it.
on a side note, some of these "Some records" copies have only one label stamped and not 2 .

[colintappe]

Aug 8, 2014 12:32:34 GMT xreganx said:

I've got an un-numbered some records. I need a numbered one!

[xreganx]

Feb 7, 2015 13:34:47 GMT paolo said:

actually the labels are numbered 1 and 2, so it's not one of the numbered copies, I guess the numbering refers to the sides...and the dustsleeve is blank. this would be very easy to turn into a "numbered" copy, since the numbering is only some handwriting and not a stamp.... so personally I wouldn't pay much attention to it.
on a side note, some of these "Some records" copies have only one label stamped and not 2 .

Ahh okay, fair enough. However I'm pretty sure like Dobek's copy all the numbered ones have stamps where they are numbered. (I have seen where they have a seperate piece of paper with the numbering and a Some Records stamp).

My copy is only stamped on one side and has handwriting on the b-side.

[Raven X Army]

There are so many variations of this record.
From what someone (Porcell??) told me about half of the press was numbered (47) some of them were personalised to certain individuals, some were just numbered, with one, the other or both SOME address stamps.
I am lucky to have one that comes with everything, both stamps, fucking finger prints and what not but that was an early number (5) I guess as they got deeper into doing it they got more lazy with the personalization aspects. I saw #20-something/47 and it only had the numbering and A LOT of stamps everywhere (both types) - all over the dust sleeve, inside/outside cover etc but no personal messages.

The non-numbered records seem to look quite lazy, with the exception for the Regan's copy. Generally one stamp on the label and sometimes a stamp on the sleeve. That's it.

[xreganx]

There has been talk on here in the past about the YOT CCME 7" with blank b-side in other threads where, I believe Dobek, said he had been told there are 12-20 of these out there. Well that didn't seem correct to me. Since I just got a new copy I was curious to know what was out there, so I did some internet sleuthing (the joys of being bored at home sick). Anyways I found pics of 14 different YOT records with blank b-sides, as well as mention of other people's copies and people listing them on HYE etc (which may be different ones as well). So there is definitely more than 12, and my guess would be there would be more than 20 considering that I have already found 14+.

If you have a copy post it, or let me know what is written of taped on the label, would love to know approx how many are out there.

Here are my two (one bought on eBay, badly water damaged).

[geoff]

ive never believed the 20 copies number of the blank b side label before. now, im starting to think about about it again. to me, those really arent blank b sides. they all have something on them, hand writing, glued/taped images or stamps. a truly blank label is rare and doesnt show up much.

[xreganx]

Jul 14, 2015 13:21:16 GMT geoff said:

ive never believed the 20 copies number of the blank b side label before. now, im starting to think about about it again. to me, those really arent blank b sides. they all have something on them, hand writing, glued/taped images or stamps. a truly blank label is rare and doesnt show up much.

I've only seen one with a complete blank b-side. I have seen a few with completely blank a and b side, but that's a whole other topic.
But yeah they aren't "blank" but they were blank/plain labels and then customised.

[geoff]

Jul 14, 2015 13:26:44 GMT xreganx said:

Jul 14, 2015 13:21:16 GMT geoff said:

ive never believed the 20 copies number of the blank b side label before. now, im starting to think about about it again. to me, those really arent blank b sides. they all have something on them, hand writing, glued/taped images or stamps. a truly blank label is rare and doesnt show up much.

I've only seen one with a complete blank b-side. I have seen a few with completely blank a and b side, but that's a whole other topic.
But yeah they aren't "blank" but they were blank/plain labels and then customised.

and the mystery continues. either way, youve got my attention with your collection! well done regan.