pillowscars
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Post by pillowscars on Nov 21, 2013 9:02:21 GMT
Since distros/stores get colored copies it's easy just to pick your favourite one and order from them instead!
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Post by nico on Nov 21, 2013 10:51:41 GMT
9 LPs is at max 7lb and thus costs 52.90 to ship with USPS Priority Mail International. If REV charges 86 dollars for shipping, there is a surplus of 33.10.
Shouldn't then the shipping for Americans be changed from 5.66 for media mail to 38.76 shipping costs incl. REV fee?
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Post by chungking48 on Nov 21, 2013 23:09:08 GMT
Closer analogy would be: I love my job. It's the best job in the world, I really don't want to quit it but every day, first thing in the morning my boss arse rapes me on my desk in front of everyone. This made me laugh. But I think you're still slightly off... An even more accurate analogy would be that you go into work every day, get arse raped, then you say to your boss ' this isn't really on, i don't like this arse raping, please can you stop the arse raping'... to which he replies, ' sorry, that's how it is here, son'... and then you say ' ok, see you tomorrow'. The point is - nobody else would go back the next day. I'm not saying that the postal charges are accurate or fair. I'm just saying that you do not have to pay them. Re: the anti america thing - its probably not what you're saying exactly, but the way you're saying it.
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Post by chungking48 on Nov 21, 2013 23:38:06 GMT
9 LPs is at max 7lb and thus costs 52.90 to ship with USPS Priority Mail International. If REV charges 86 dollars for shipping, there is a surplus of 33.10. Shouldn't then the shipping for Americans be changed from 5.66 for media mail to 38.76 shipping costs incl. REV fee? Like I said in my other post, I was not & am not defending Rev's shipping charges or saying they are accurate or fair. If you read what I wrote, I DID NOT order the 9 LPs and pay to have them delivered to the UK for $86. I decided a few months ago that I wasn't happy with Rev's charges for overseas postage, so I stopped ordering and paying it. On a related note though, no label or seller would ever charge $53 if the cost to ship was $53. Everyone adds on a margin to cover costs and fees. So yes, $33 'surplus' is too much, but every label & seller out there will add some surplus on. If anyone has the time & inclination, why not add 9 LPs (two of which being double LPs - so really it's more like 11 LPs) to your cart in other online US stores and see how much postage they add on? Would be interesting to see exactly who does charge the most & if Rev is top of the chart or whether they are just average.
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Post by Raven X Army on Nov 21, 2013 23:49:13 GMT
Closer analogy would be: I love my job. It's the best job in the world, I really don't want to quit it but every day, first thing in the morning my boss arse rapes me on my desk in front of everyone. This made me laugh. But I think you're still slightly off... An even more accurate analogy would be that you go into work every day, get arse raped, then you say to your boss ' this isn't really on, i don't like this arse raping, please can you stop the arse raping'... to which he replies, ' sorry, that's how it is here, son'... and then you say ' ok, see you tomorrow'. The point is - nobody else would go back the next day. I'm not saying that the postal charges are accurate or fair. I'm just saying that you do not have to pay them. I forgot to add that I have been doing this job for longer than I can remember and don't really know how to do any other job so except for the occasional butt fuck I'm really happy because REV did something special at one point in time that really keeps you coming back. Simply hoping for them to stop stealing our money shouldn't be such big of a deal. I think because we are outside of the US it somehow makes it "acceptable" in general public view that we pay more than we ought to. Can you imagine the outrage if they started to add $34 overcharge to the local postage? Every HC msg board in the USA would turn into an anthill with a stick in it. It's simply unfair and I'm just saying it. So I don't agree with you saying: nobody else would go back the next day. It's like saying to black dudes in the 40s and 50s (in the USA lol): Sorry, that's how it is here, son.If you don't like that there are separate areas for the Nigros on the buses and in the restaurants then don't use buses and don't go to the restaurants. Stopping doing something because it comes with shitty element attched to it isn't right. Removing the shitty element is the correct course of action. Every time. I thought the irony made the world go round?? Or have I mixed up them English sayings again? I'm not native after all. Are people really that sensitive about such trivial and unimportant matters like giving two shits about your own country? British comedians must take a ton of hate mail from angry Americans every time they take piss out of the US because I'm not even in the slightest extreme in any of my statements and manage to cause strong reactions.
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Post by Raven X Army on Nov 21, 2013 23:50:14 GMT
Everyone adds on a margin to cover costs and fees. That's what the +$4 is for.
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Post by chungking48 on Nov 22, 2013 14:01:49 GMT
I agree with what you are saying and I agree that stuff that is wrong should be challenged, and arse raping should be stamped out. Totally agree. I agree the charges are too high. I guess for me though I just feel that you have to pick your battles, and I got the sense on this issue that it's not worth fighting. You (I think it was you anyway) raised the issue with them and they basically said some excuse as a reply which implied they are not going to change it. At that point I personally would have replied and said 'ok, fine, but i'm not buying from you any more'. If enough people did that then perhaps they would reconsider. If you take a stance, take a stance. But complaining about the charges whilst paying them seems slightly hypocritical. You're giving them no reason to change. From their point of view it's like 'well, there's these kids complaining about our shipping charges. They say if we don't change them they're going to carry on paying us'. So overall I think everyone is sympathetic to the issue, but nto the constant complaining on this board. Complaining here has zero effect other than becoming annoying to people. If you want to try to fight them, fine, but do it properly. I don't necessarily know how to do that, by the way. I just know the answer is not continuing to comlpain on this board. I just went to B9 webstore and added 7 LPs and 2 double LPs to my cart. It was going to charge me $65 for shipping. So $21 less than Rev on a like for like order. I think if someone got like for like prices from more online stores then presented it to Rev, and asked why their overseas charges are the most expensive on the internet, then they may be forced into giving a more reasonable explanation. Maybe use the information to get more overseas kids to boycott ordering directly from Rev. Put the info on message boards. If it annoys you that much then put your energy into doing something about it. I'm sure people on here would support you too. i would. I just do not have the energy to drive this myself. The sad reality is though that they probably do not care. Maybe they charge high on their shipping because they hate shipping overseas. Maybe it's supposed to discourage people from ordering? Whatever happens though, buying the records some place else is a viable option. It's not like any of the 'limited' records that they have put out in the last 3 years or so are remotely hard to find. Rev vinyl today is not like Rev vinyl pre-internet. It's everywhere.
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pillowscars
There ain't gonna be a bell to go ding
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Post by pillowscars on Nov 26, 2013 7:43:55 GMT
Thanks for the Per Koro tip!
1x CIV - set your goals (2013/REVELATION) LPcol at 12.50 EUR = 12.50 EUR 1x JUDGE - what it meant: the complete discography (2013/REVELATION) DoLPcol at 15.00 EUR = 15.00 EUR 1x v/a NEW YORK CITY HARDCORE: THE WAY IT IS - (1988/REVELATION) LPcol at 12.50 EUR = 12.50 EUR ______________ Subtotal: 40.00 EUR
and I think shipping will be €8.50.
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Post by minoratheart on Nov 26, 2013 13:08:00 GMT
Thanks for the Per Koro tip! 1x CIV - set your goals (2013/REVELATION) LPcol at 12.50 EUR = 12.50 EUR 1x JUDGE - what it meant: the complete discography (2013/REVELATION) DoLPcol at 15.00 EUR = 15.00 EUR 1x v/a NEW YORK CITY HARDCORE: THE WAY IT IS - (1988/REVELATION) LPcol at 12.50 EUR = 12.50 EUR ______________ Subtotal: 40.00 EUR and I think shipping will be €8.50. You're welcome. Don't worry if it takes a little longer for him to get back to you. Markus is a good dude, but he runs his shop, the mailorder and his label all by himself. He always writes a personal mail before sending the records. You can also order records from him that are not listed in the online shop by the way. He'll try to get them for you somehow.
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xfoundxyoux
Duane loves Gina
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Post by xfoundxyoux on Nov 26, 2013 15:27:22 GMT
1x CIV - set your goals (2013/REVELATION) LPcol at 12.50 EUR = 12.50 EUR 1x JUDGE - what it meant: the complete discography (2013/REVELATION) DoLPcol at 15.00 EUR = 15.00 EUR 1x v/a NEW YORK CITY HARDCORE: THE WAY IT IS - (1988/REVELATION) LPcol at 12.50 EUR = 12.50 EUR ______________ Subtotal: 40.00 EUR and I think shipping will be €8.50. I just thought about this 58,50 euro = $79,- Those 3 records are at the rev. store for $39,- in total, how much international shipping is it calculating for these 3 records. i don't think your example is cheaper than ordering at revhq in this case. It almost looks that the these totals are to come as close to a total distro price?(perhaps in the shipping calculation of revhq they add a factor to come as close to the overseas distro prices???) What i also don't understand that there is no american who see some sort of business in this. ;-) Every international person, orders at revhq and gives this american persons address, this person gets all the packages(and don't open them ofcourse ;-) ) and send them for a normal shipping to the buyer, after having received the "normal" shipping costs, plus something extra for the trouble ofcourse ;-) jeff xXx
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Post by chris2far on Nov 26, 2013 19:15:08 GMT
You guys should keep that source on the downlow!
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pillowscars
There ain't gonna be a bell to go ding
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Post by pillowscars on Nov 26, 2013 21:24:14 GMT
It was €48.50, which is about $65.
From RevHQ, the records are $39 + shipping: $4.00 + $42.00 First Class = $85.
Plus I think that €8.50 is postage up to 2 kilos, so I could add more records if I wanted to.
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Post by chris2far on Oct 9, 2014 12:47:06 GMT
Guess what i got for free with this order? N O T H I N G
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Post by orangerory on Oct 9, 2014 21:50:14 GMT
I have a shit load of crappy free rev CDs, stickers, posters, useless labels, and other misc BS that they throw into these boxes - I would be HAPPY to send it to you.
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takemeaway89
The Sap Hotline
I can still remember the last time I cried.
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Post by takemeaway89 on Nov 26, 2015 8:24:27 GMT
Funny story. Recently I placed a Rev order because I was travelling to NYC for a few days so rather than pay through my ass for postage to the UK and then get an extra customs charge on top of that, I decided to have it sent to the place I was staying at. Only I chose the lowest (and slowest) postage option and when I was actually there only then realised it wasn't going to reach me in time. Luckily a friend who lives in Maine said I could send it for him to hold and he's going to mail it to me the next time I'm in NYC (hopefully next March-April). I should have known the $5 shipping was too good to be true.
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Post by lordxhumungus on Nov 26, 2015 16:06:30 GMT
Funny story. Recently I placed a Rev order because I was travelling to NYC for a few days so rather than pay through my ass for postage to the UK and then get an extra customs charge on top of that, I decided to have it sent to the place I was staying at. Only I chose the lowest (and slowest) postage option and when I was actually there only then realised it wasn't going to reach me in time. Luckily a friend who lives in Maine said I could send it for him to hold and he's going to mail it to me the next time I'm in NYC (hopefully next March-April). I should have known the $5 shipping was too good to be true. I've said it before and I'll say it again... I HATE MEDIA MAIL. It's worth a few extra bucks (to me)) for speed and piece of mind. Less handling time = less chance of bad things.
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Post by lordxhumungus on Nov 26, 2015 16:12:29 GMT
Oh and I think it's great that Rev will be adjusting their international shipping rates. As posted in the Judge 25th anniversary preorder thread, Rev will adjust their rates after you order. The initial outrageous fee will be reduced when it hits your bank account. International friends - please keep us posted about this. I'm curious to see how it works out.
My personal experience. - Rev has always been truthful when combining my orders and reducing the shipping cost once the charge is reflected on my bank account. I really hope this works out for everyone else too.
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Post by reasontorevelate on Nov 26, 2015 19:09:35 GMT
Oh and I think it's great that Rev will be adjusting their international shipping rates. As posted in the Judge 25th anniversary preorder thread, Rev will adjust their rates after you order. The initial outrageous fee will be reduced when it hits your bank account. International friends - please keep us posted about this. I'm curious to see how it works out. My personal experience. - Rev has always been truthful when combining my orders and reducing the shipping cost once the charge is reflected on my bank account. I really hope this works out for everyone else too. For all international orders? Or just for the Judge LP due to the thread? It remains to be seen...
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takemeaway89
The Sap Hotline
I can still remember the last time I cried.
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Post by takemeaway89 on Nov 26, 2015 22:56:19 GMT
Yeah I learned the hard way. Funny story. Recently I placed a Rev order because I was travelling to NYC for a few days so rather than pay through my ass for postage to the UK and then get an extra customs charge on top of that, I decided to have it sent to the place I was staying at. Only I chose the lowest (and slowest) postage option and when I was actually there only then realised it wasn't going to reach me in time. Luckily a friend who lives in Maine said I could send it for him to hold and he's going to mail it to me the next time I'm in NYC (hopefully next March-April). I should have known the $5 shipping was too good to be true. I've said it before and I'll say it again... I HATE MEDIA MAIL. It's worth a few extra bucks (to me)) for speed and piece of mind. Less handling time = less chance of bad things.
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Post by xleighdrugfreex on Nov 27, 2015 1:13:20 GMT
I just ordered the one Judge lp and a poster. Once I factored in the shipping then the currency conversion the order ended up being a similar price to buying a Chung King in 1991.
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Edmasta
Got a dolla
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Post by Edmasta on Nov 27, 2015 10:06:55 GMT
$13 shipping for a poster not in a tube hahaha ....yet we all still pay it.
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Post by davesfu on Nov 27, 2015 23:20:57 GMT
It was €48.50, which is about $65. From RevHQ, the records are $39 + shipping: $4.00 + $42.00 First Class = $85. Plus I think that €8.50 is postage up to 2 kilos, so I could add more records if I wanted to. That package would be under 4 pounds. At $42 they could send it priority instead of first class at least
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circlestorm69
This record is gonna be a 12 inch
ONCE I CRY
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Post by circlestorm69 on Nov 29, 2015 9:54:17 GMT
Looking for something else at REVHQ I ran into the shipping rates page. I've never looked for them before, since I see what I have to pay for shipping while I'm checking out. But I'm also the guy who doesn't read instruction manuals ;-)
Since there are a lot of (angry) posts about REV's shipping rates, it seems a good thing to post them here. They look better than what I get to see when I'm checking out.
Does REV really use the additional items rate? I always got the feeling that if I order one album I have to pay $15 (+$4) and if I buy two albums it's $30 (+$4) Recent items I order I ship to my friend (you know who you are) in the US, so maybe that has changed recently.
Although that is weird considering the date REV mentions below.
Well anyway, share your recent NON US shipping rate experiences!
ORDERS IN THE UNITED STATES:
If you only order one CD or 7", standard shipping is $3.50, Priority Mail shipping is $6.50. If you only order one t-shirt, standard shipping is $4.50, Priority Mail shipping is $6.50. On most other orders, flat rate shipping is $5.00 for standard, $12.00 for Priority Mail. Add $4.00 if you want posters sent rolled in a poster tube instead of folded. Heavier items like skateboards or large books or heavy orders will have an additional shipping charge added (all shipping charges are shown during checkout prior to completing your order). Orders shipped to California addresses must add 8% sales tax.
ORDERS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES: Apologies to everyone outside the US. The Postal Service has increased the rates over 30% for a lot of parcels and weights as of 1/27/13.
Orders outside the U.S. should include the $5.00 flat shipping charge plus additional overseas postage costs as follows. Actual shipping and handling may be more or less than indicated (it's usually less). We may adjust postage if shipping rates differ from actual costs.
Air Mail
Canada
7"s, Zines, or Posters: Add $4.00 for the first, $2.00 each additional LPs or Books: Add $9.00 for the first, $5.00 each additional CDs or DVDs,: Add $4.00 for the first, $2.00 each additional Shirts: Add $5.00 for the first, $3.50 each additional Sweatshirts, 2xLPs or Large Books: Add $11.00 for the first, $6.00 each additional Heavy Books or Skateboards: Add $24.00 for the first, $12.00 each additional Posters rolled in a tube: Add $4.00 for shipping in addition to handling charge
Mexico
7"s, Posters, or Zines: Add $7.00 for the first, $2.50 each additional LPs or Books: Add $13.00 for the first, $6.00 each additional CDs or DVDs: Add $7.00 for the first, $2.50 each additional Shirts: Add $10.00 for the first, $3.00 each additional Sweatshirts, 2xLPs or Large Books: Add $19.00 for the first, $10.00 each additional Heavy Books or Skateboards: Add $29.00 for the first, $18.00 each additional Posters rolled in a tube: Add $7.00 for shipping in addition to handling charge
Europe / Asia / Australia / New Zealand / Pacific Rim / Middle East / Africa
7"s, Posters, or Zines: Add $8.00 for the first, $2.50 each additional LPs or Books: Add $15.00 for the first, $6.00 each additional CDs or DVDs: Add $8.00 for the first, $2.50 each addtional Shirts: Add $11.00 for the first, $3.50 each additional Sweatshirts, 2xLPs or Large Books: Add $21.00 for the first, $10.00 each additional Heavy Books or Skateboards: Add $34.00 for the first, $16.00 each additional Posters rolled in a tube: Add $8.00 for shipping in addition to handling charge
South America
7"s, Posters, or Zines: Add $8.00 for the first, $2.50 each additional LPs or Books: Add $15.00 for the first, $6.00 each additional CDs or DVDs: Add $8.00 for the first, $2.50 each addtional Shirts: Add $11.00 for the first, $3.00 each additional Sweatshirts, 2xLPs or Large Books: Add $21.00 for the first, $10.00 each additional Heavy Books or Skateboards: Add $34.00 for the first, $16.00 each additional Posters rolled in a tube: Add $8.00 for shipping in addition to handling charge
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Post by runexjustanotherday on Nov 29, 2015 17:06:24 GMT
I placed two orders when the Judge anniversary stuff was announced. First I just grabbed the colored LP right away. Then I saw the posters and decided to grab two of those (+poster tube) and a black LP. My total including shipping for the two order with international shipping to Denmark: order #1: $35 order #2: $63.50 Total of $98.50 Rough, huh?
I just checked what was actually charged from my account: a total of $30.38 and $35.50 = $65.88 They did cut a lot of shipping when combining the two orders. I'm happy.
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circlestorm69
This record is gonna be a 12 inch
ONCE I CRY
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Post by circlestorm69 on Nov 29, 2015 19:07:35 GMT
I placed two orders when the Judge anniversary stuff was announced. First I just grabbed the colored LP right away. Then I saw the posters and decided to grab two of those (+poster tube) and a black LP. My total including shipping for the two order with international shipping to Denmark: order #1: $35 order #2: $63.50 Total of $98.50 Rough, huh? I just checked what was actually charged from my account: a total of $30.38 and $35.50 = $65.88 They did cut a lot of shipping when combining the two orders. I'm happy. That's a good thing! How about you chris2far?
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