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Post by troytilldeath on Mar 28, 2017 1:59:17 GMT
For anybody that has sold through both eBay and discogs which do you prefer and why?
I don't look at discogs nearly as often as I should for records because I hate how all of the listings use the same photo and the lack of info.
My understanding is that eBay charges a 10% final value fee and discogs is 8%? But discogs doesn't allow auctions.
I guess my question is this: if selling a bunch of records is it worth it to list them on discogs because the seller fee is lower but is ebay better because of higher traffic, and auction options and the ability to put up more photos and personalize the listing i.e. More info regarding your specific copy of a record..... I feel like I've answered my own question but want to hear your opinions.
please and thank you!
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Post by wscottyg on Mar 28, 2017 2:23:56 GMT
Buying: I search both. Depends on the record. Like you mentioned, I'll lean towards Ebay for better photos and details.
Selling: I sell on Ebay because of the listing deadline. I'm usually selling records to buy more records...soon. The 10% fee seems small but it hurts sometimes.
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Post by nico on Mar 28, 2017 4:29:50 GMT
As a buyer my focus shifted 90% to Discogs. Regardless of the not having pictures of the item. (Which are just a message to the seller away.)
Mostly because eBay is so annoying on their mandatory and way to expensive shipping program.
Plus you can easily buy more records from the same seller, to make the most out of the shipping costs.
Plus I love the easy way you can contact the seller and don't have to go past those mandatory help wizards that never have the answer you are looking for.
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Post by chris2far on Mar 28, 2017 4:32:37 GMT
I prefer discogs. Because there you can buy it without having to bid on it. Makes a lot more sense one cheap to semi cheap records. I almost never buy anything from ebay anymore. Discogs is way easier and "buyer friendly"
Of course, you gotta be shure about the price. Because ones its sold, its gone. And there is enough space to comment or even ask the seller for pictures and more infos. I did that a lot on some specific records.
Expensive records i rather buy privat. Because there you want more infos and somehow its important to me, to know who the seller is and how i have a "feeling" about it.
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Post by Raven X Army on Mar 28, 2017 4:35:04 GMT
As a seller, if you're selling records which are over $1500 (which you do) the ebay will charge you the 10% all the way (if you sell a $4000 they will nick $400 off you) while on discogs the max they will charge a seller is $150. The 8% will go up the $150 and stay there, no matter how much over the record goes.
Also, ebay annoyed me way too many fucking times. Discogs, not yet.
That's as a seller. As a buyer whichever works. As long as you find what you're looking for
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Post by Raven X Army on Mar 28, 2017 4:37:35 GMT
Another good point of discogs when selling: if you sell more than 10 records the time saving for the entire operation is rather significant.
Listing on ebay is nothing short of annoying. Listing on discogs is literally 2 clicks.
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Post by takemeaway89 on Mar 28, 2017 9:23:55 GMT
I like the idea of buying something straight away instead of bidding but lately Discogs has been an headache. I ordered a Chain of strength-WHUA 7" white vinyl, first strike version then the clown mails me back and tells me it's blue vinyl but with a second pressing red sleeve but still expects me to buy it. When I told him where to go he cancelled the order but called me a 'straight edge idiot'for being willing to spend that much on a record in the first place. Good job he doesn't know about my chung king then.
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Post by xreganx on Mar 28, 2017 9:59:34 GMT
I like the idea of buying something straight away instead of bidding but lately Discogs has been an headache. I ordered a Chain of strength-WHUA 7" white vinyl, first strike version then the clown mails me back and tells me it's blue vinyl but with a second pressing red sleeve but still expects me to buy it. When I told him where to go he cancelled the order but called me a 'straight edge idiot'for being willing to spend that much on a record in the first place. Good job he doesn't know about my chung king then. What does that make him then for cashing in? I would have just replied with a pic of myself X'd up holding my Chung King, other expensive records and a stacks of cash. |
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Post by takemeaway89 on Mar 28, 2017 10:06:56 GMT
I like the idea of buying something straight away instead of bidding but lately Discogs has been an headache. I ordered a Chain of strength-WHUA 7" white vinyl, first strike version then the clown mails me back and tells me it's blue vinyl but with a second pressing red sleeve but still expects me to buy it. When I told him where to go he cancelled the order but called me a 'straight edge idiot'for being willing to spend that much on a record in the first place. Good job he doesn't know about my chung king then. What does that make him then for cashing in? I would have just replied with a pic of myself X'd up holding my Chung King, other expensive records and a stacks of cash. Replying with a picture of me in front of a yacht with straight edge in huge letters on it would have been funny. |
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Post by davesfu on Mar 28, 2017 13:13:48 GMT
As a buyer my focus shifted 90% to Discogs. Regardless of the not having pictures of the item. (Which are just a message to the seller away.) Mostly because eBay is so annoying on their mandatory and way to expensive shipping program. Plus you can easily buy more records from the same seller, to make the most out of the shipping costs. Plus I love the easy way you can contact the seller and don't have to go past those mandatory help wizards that never have the answer you are looking for. Whats their mandatory shipping program? |
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Post by Raven X Army on Mar 28, 2017 13:49:45 GMT
As a buyer my focus shifted 90% to Discogs. Regardless of the not having pictures of the item. (Which are just a message to the seller away.) Mostly because eBay is so annoying on their mandatory and way to expensive shipping program. Plus you can easily buy more records from the same seller, to make the most out of the shipping costs. Plus I love the easy way you can contact the seller and don't have to go past those mandatory help wizards that never have the answer you are looking for. Whats their mandatory shipping program? That global fucking shipping thing. If the seller opted in you must roll with it. No option B. It's the next big thing after the pyramid schemes where they make you pay import tax off the winning bid in advance, and they fucking charge a nasty percentage. |
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Post by troytilldeath on Mar 28, 2017 14:32:08 GMT
Thanks for or the info everybody. For experienced discogs sellers, does it give you the option to take best offers? Or is the price you set the price. I'm assuming based off of the other replies that people can send private offers via messaging/email but I am wondering if I can put that ad an option on some higher valued records.
Seems like serious collectors check out discogs just as much if not more than eBay but you have to search for a specific record to find what your looking for, you don't get the tags like on eBay
I was wondering because davesfu took his clear wz off of discogs and went with eBay in the end so I was just curious what the benefit was.
Thanks again, you guys rule!
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Post by Michel on Mar 28, 2017 14:35:20 GMT
As a frequent buyer on Discogs, I know sellers can add a 'Make offer'-option apart from the fixed selling price...
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Post by troytilldeath on Mar 28, 2017 14:36:49 GMT
As a frequent buyer on Discogs, I know sellers can add a 'Make offer'-option apart from the fixed selling price... Awesome! Good to know, thank you! Like I said I don't check discogs very often I'll look into it. |
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Post by Michel on Mar 28, 2017 14:39:37 GMT
Also, as to searching for a specific record on Discogs, you can add records to your wanted items list. Once records on your list are added for sale, they are added to your wanted items that are for sale list, or you can get notified by messages/emails. So, buyers don't have to search for the records they are looking for all the time.
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Post by davesfu on Mar 28, 2017 16:40:39 GMT
Whats their mandatory shipping program? That global fucking shipping thing. If the seller opted in you must roll with it. No option B. It's the next big thing after the pyramid schemes where they make you pay import tax off the winning bid in advance, and they fucking charge a nasty percentage. Ahh, that thing is bullshit. I never opt in to it in any of my auctions. Its not mandatory at all, its up to the seller to use it or not |
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Post by troytilldeath on Mar 28, 2017 17:06:46 GMT
That global fucking shipping thing. If the seller opted in you must roll with it. No option B. It's the next big thing after the pyramid schemes where they make you pay import tax off the winning bid in advance, and they fucking charge a nasty percentage. Ahh, that thing is bullshit. I never opt in to it in any of my auctions. Its not mandatory at all, its up to the seller to use it or not Is that the crazy airport exchange road address for overseas buyers? How do I get out of that, it stresses me out! |
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Post by davesfu on Mar 28, 2017 17:10:36 GMT
Ahh, that thing is bullshit. I never opt in to it in any of my auctions. Its not mandatory at all, its up to the seller to use it or not Is that the crazy airport exchange road address for overseas buyers? How do I get out of that, it stresses me out! Two ways, one is in your seller settings buried deep in ebay you can choose to not even have it be an option when you list stuff. Otherwise you can just not click the "use global shipping program" box in the international shipping section when you are listing something. |
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Post by reasontorevelate on Mar 28, 2017 19:40:34 GMT
Discogs "make an offer" option gives the seller 5 days to think about the offer.
I can tell you that can be a long wait (for a buyer) when you really want an expensive and rare record.
I believe ebay gives the seller 48 hours to react, not sure though.
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Post by nico on Mar 28, 2017 20:11:23 GMT
Whats their mandatory shipping program? That global fucking shipping thing. If the seller opted in you must roll with it. No option B. It's the next big thing after the pyramid schemes where they make you pay import tax off the winning bid in advance, and they fucking charge a nasty percentage. So fucking annoying I need to pay import taxes of roughly ten dollars for something that has no import taxes since the price is below the threshold. Obviously they didn't want to refund it, so eBay made another ten bucks for doing nothing. |
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Post by pkrhq on Mar 28, 2017 21:08:42 GMT
For experienced discogs sellers, does it give you the option to take best offers? Discogs gives you the option to accept offers, but their system is lacking in that it doesn't allow the seller to make a counter offer. As a seller you only have the option to accept or decline an offer, and if you want to haggle with the buyer you have to do it through PM's. My opinions on the two sites (sorry for the long winded post): Discogs pros: - Easy to list stuff for sale, site is user friendly - Slightly cheaper fees (8% vs ebay's 10%) - Your records for sale are directly marketed to buyers via daily want list emails - Buyers tend to be less hostile than ebay, in my experience - Better feedback system Discogs cons: - If there's no entry for what you're selling, you have to make one and wait for people to find it/add it to their want list - Lack of counter offer option for sellers - Sellers undercutting each other on prices which leads to this race-to-the-bottom pricing with some items, especially new releases, essentially making certain records unsellable Ebay pros: - Better for selling specialty items (obscure titles, rare pressings, promos, etc) - Larger user base = more potential buyers - Allows for photos, sound clips, etc - Ability to sell stuff in lots Ebay cons: - Takes longer to list items, site is way more complicated than it needs to be - Slightly higher fees, though if you can achieve the "top rated" seller rating you get a 20% discount and you end up paying the same 8% cut as discogs - Record market is a bit flooded on there, making it hard to browse for certain items - Ebay saved searches don't work as well as discogs' want list feature That's just off the top of my head, and obviously there are exceptions to everything I mentioned, but that's my 2 cents on each site. I use both regularly and have a good idea of what site to use to sell certain items, so I'm happy with the two. I think what it all boils down to is that discogs is good for selling established records with established prices, and ebay is good for selling more obscure titles, rare pressings, etc. |
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Post by xtokeex on Mar 29, 2017 3:44:13 GMT
i only sell on `scogs because ebay and their policies made me sick and not to mention the 10% fee.listing is really easy and if you don`t mind waiting for sales /you just want to trim your record collection and don`t need the $$$ next day then it`s perfect.sometimes i sell records within an hour (my fastest sale is about 10 minutes after listing a rare metalcore cd) sometimes certain things won`t move for a year.if i want i can change the price anytime or add the offer option but people always want everything for half price,so i just deny it and move on.compare to ebay when all your shits ends like same day and you have to ship out 100 records at once,on discogs you can have daily sales like 1-5 order (depends what you sell and how rare it is or how much you selling it for).i have up about 1000 records now all genre and i have 1 or 2 order every day and don`t kill me if i have to pack them up and ship them out within 2-3 days later.less morons asking stupid questions or being on your case like when you will send that trackingnumber,etc.
i prefer discogs and to be honest everybody sells on it now than ebay.look the amount of hc records sells now/sold recently on ebay in the past few years vs discogs.
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