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Post by Raven X Army on Apr 29, 2017 4:39:13 GMT
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Post by reasontorevelate on Apr 29, 2017 8:32:02 GMT
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Post by Raven X Army on May 1, 2017 1:37:07 GMT
It looks like I've been had on that JOKER cover lol
Hi Dwid, only last week bought a red In Contrast of Sin 7" with the Joker cover off a guy named Stephen Richnafsky (North Royalton OH). He says he got that one directly from you. Would you be able to confirm this is the real thing? I've seen a ton of boots of that floating around. The only other supposedly real one that I saw a picture of was the one that Guav (a guy I know from Syracuse) had. Let me know please.
Hello mate, Thanks for writing me back. It looks like I've been had on this deal. Here's what the guy told me:
hello I have attached photos of the 7" your looking at I got this from Dwid way back in the day right when Confront became One Life Crew youll never see another one of these I have only seen one other once and that was Dwids when he had it if he still has it. are you looking any other integrity vinyl? I have a lot that I got from Dwid when they came out. maybe everything I got from Integrity was given to me from Dwid same with any Confront and OLC all from Mean Steve and Dwid. So this 7" from the man himself that made them in the 90s haha
That's a straight copy/paste from his emails. I think he uses a nickname xbluex as well if that rings any bells.
Fucking great... Marcus is always right haha
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Post by deluxxx777 on May 1, 2017 8:19:43 GMT
@ Dobek: ...che pezzi di merda! I can't explain it in a better way. Since we have only 6 of this cover, is understandable that some people made a bunch of fake sleeve, if you do it for yourself and your personal collection, I think it's fine. But to sell a fake as an original really sucks!
Also, this reading just make me think at chubby fresh and white power...I can't believe I still have to hear something like that in 2017.
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Post by reasontorevelate on May 1, 2017 18:28:01 GMT
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Post by reasontorevelate on May 1, 2017 18:33:51 GMT
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brett
The Washout Sessions
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Post by brett on May 1, 2017 19:26:38 GMT
I was asking that guy about that joker sleeve about 6, 7 months ago when it showed up on eBay. He had the same pictures up that were used in the 2012 auction and he changed them to updated pictures, the pictures he changed them to looked like a copy of the cover used in the 2012 auction the 2012 cover has some wrinkles and creases but the pictures of the cover he updated didn't have those wrinkles and creases it was crisp looking. And from the 2012 and just reacent auction it's the same seller. That's when I asked Dwid about it and he told me there was 6 and a victory records stamp, he also said he didn't know anything about a drawing inside the cover. I told that guy selling it what Dwid told me and he said he didn't know why he would say that but he also told me he would get ahold of Dwid to verify but couldn't get ahold of him. So I messaged Dwid and he got right back to me.
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Post by Raven X Army on May 1, 2017 21:29:42 GMT
Yep, all of those copies with them drawings on the inside are chubbie's bootlegs.
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Post by Raven X Army on May 1, 2017 21:32:46 GMT
I should have asked Dwid before not after I bought this. I filed the paypal claim. Let's see where this goes.
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Post by Raven X Army on May 1, 2017 21:40:05 GMT
By the way, I asked the guy about that auction that ended at $800~something for the exact same record. He replied that it was him listing it but it was a non-paying bidder. I thought it sounded reasonable at the time.
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Post by reasontorevelate on May 1, 2017 22:02:39 GMT
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Post by chungking48 on May 1, 2017 22:32:35 GMT
Marcus is always right haha I'm not sure about that. But I've been collecting Integrity records for a long time, and I wouldn't touch copies of this with a bargepole. I distinctly remember reading an interview with Damien from the band Fucked Up once, which was (I think) in Record Collector magazine. I think he mentioned having one of the Joker sleeve 7"s. There may even have been a picture. Makes me wonder whether he also got ripped off and actually owns a boot too.
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brett
The Washout Sessions
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Post by brett on May 1, 2017 22:37:15 GMT
By the way, I asked the guy about that auction that ended at $800~something for the exact same record. He replied that it was him listing it but it was a non-paying bidder. I thought it sounded reasonable at the time. Hahaha he said that? When I asked him about that and him using the same pictures he told me someone stole his pictures and he couldn't believe it got done for that much, the min he said that I knew he was full of bs and that's when he changed the auction pictures
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Post by Raven X Army on May 2, 2017 0:19:24 GMT
I filed a paypal claim attaching his emails stating clearly and on several occasions that he got the record directly from Dwid or "the man himself that made them in the 90s haha" as he eloquently put it, to which he responded (in the paypal claim):
"I don't understand I got this from Mean Steve back in the day when I picked up a bunch of his records like the OLC test presses."
While it clearly is a photocopy of the bootleg (not even of an original) that chubby was selling in that 800 auction.
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Post by reasontorevelate on May 2, 2017 6:10:03 GMT
I just got a message from PayPal, they think they have a lead:
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Post by Clichejon on May 2, 2017 7:14:39 GMT
I hope you get your cash back. I guess it's down to the seller to prove that the record is not a bootleg? Or is down to prove that the record is a bootleg?
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Post by Raven X Army on May 2, 2017 7:44:01 GMT
haha... I actually watched this entire interview. Highlighs: - Faggot victory records and lyrics not being racist (see that phonecall to Karl Earth Crisis again)
- In the terms of struggle in life my mommy gave me jordans and skateboards
- I'm a republican and I believe in media (lol of the day #foxandfriends) and then he goes: Media and the negative stuff sells waaaay above the positive stuff.
- I don't believe in Obama care because I have children (lol of the day #2) now under Trump/Ryan care he will have to make a lot more bootleg Joker covers to cover (see what I did there) his kids health plan
- 4 Jews, Israel will whoop your arse. Mossad!!
- Mean Steve raping a ferret.
- We slept in the same bed and we took care of eachother. I guess that's what being on faggot victory does to you.
- And finally you can't call yourself "mean" and rock the soul patch. It's either one or the other. Can't do both.
... Also with the preorders for the new OLC lp first 100 people get a free copy of the 2001 critically acclaimed film THE BELIEVER starring Ryan Gosling. On bluray and dvd out ages ago.
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Post by Clichejon on May 12, 2017 17:10:03 GMT
Any updates?
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mkjns
Zip, zang, boom, your'e outta here
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Post by mkjns on May 13, 2017 13:55:18 GMT
Finally found this one.
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teenidle
Ha, ha, ha, Carrot Juice
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Post by teenidle on May 13, 2017 19:55:09 GMT
Back at home at last! Attachments:
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Post by chungking48 on Jun 21, 2017 19:27:05 GMT
Made my day / week / month / year:
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Post by fallingskies on Jun 22, 2017 12:36:23 GMT
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circlestorm69
This record is gonna be a 12 inch
ONCE I CRY
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Post by circlestorm69 on Jun 27, 2017 9:33:30 GMT
Just got this guy in the mail a couple days ago. Anybody know which pressing this is? I can't figure it out.. Looking for something else I saw pic again. Did anybody ever find out what it is and did anyone ever see another one of this? The paper looks way thicker than the regular paper used on 3rd pressings. Or am I wrong?
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Post by davesfu on Jun 27, 2017 13:17:33 GMT
The mystery cover. Nobody knows. I tried asking Rev and they had no clue. I had one on my GB 2nd press test press that i won in a rev auction and Kevin Finn told me he had never seen one before either when he sent it. Im looking for another one now
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Post by brettv79 on Jul 4, 2017 16:39:51 GMT
Burn last great sea on green with euro tour stamp
Burn s/t on purple not stamped or numbered. Anyone know the deal with these? Thought they were all numbered
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