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If you own a copy of the Youth Of Today "Can't Close My Eyes" 7" on Positive Force, you may have noticed that the lyrics to "We Just Might" appear on the insert but that the song's not actually on the record, and wondered, "Why?!"

The song "We Just Might" was apparently left off the record without the band's knowledge, presumably due to an oversight or possible time constraint during production. The lyric sheets, already printed with the song, were altered in various ways to address the issue. "We Just Might" either was crossed out on the lyric sheet, cut off with scissors or replaced by handwritten messages. Some copies were sent out with the lyric sheets totally intact, adding to the confusion.

"We Just Might" made its way back onto the EP when it was remixed by Don Fury and reissued as a 12" by Caroline Records in early 1988. This version of the record also saw the addition of the track "Take A Stand" from the same session, as well as the newly recorded "rap" intro to "I Have Faith," featuring recently joined member Sammy Siegler in his first recording as Youth Of Today's new drummer. Siegler's performance went un-credited on that reissue and on every other reissue of the record to date. Thanks to Sammy and Porcell for filling us on on the details.

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The late-'80s NYHC band Pressure Release is best known for being on the "New Breed" and "X Marks The Spot" compilations, and for their 7" "Prison Of My Own" on New Age Records. The 7", however, was not released exactly as the band had intended.

After Pressure Release recorded "Prison of My Own", their original singer, the late Doug Byrnes, left the band and vocal duties were taken over by Ben Smith, who then re-recorded the vocal tracks. The new version was meant to be used for the 7", however the first version of the recording with original singer Doug on vocals, was inadvertently sent to the New Age Records. Unaware of the mixup, the label sent the reels off to master and press the record. It wasn't until after the record was released in 1990 that the mistake was discovered, sending the second version of the EP into obscurity, and cementing Doug Byrnes in the annals of hardcore history.

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Fred Muench is best known as the vocalist for NYHC band Bad Trip, whose debut EP in 1989, "Positively Bad," was followed up with few more releases in the '90s on Wreck Age Records. But recently, he has been appointed to a notable position outside of the world of music.

This past week, Muench as named the President and CEO of the national nonprofit Partnership for Drug-Free Kids. Previously he founded and managed Mobile Health Interventions, one of the first behavioral health text-messaging companies, where he built the first addiction continuing-care mobile messaging program, along with multiple behavioral-health messaging programs. He holds a PhD in clinical psychology from Fordham University.

You can read more about Fred and the work he does here:
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Those of you living on the crustier side of life may remember the label Profane Existence, who were responsible for releases from bands like Nausea, Doom, State Of Fear, Detestation and many more, along with a fanzine of the same name. And if you have ever purchased a World War II-based Lego kit or ordered one online, there is a good chance Profane Existence founder (and Pissed, Disrespect and Destroy vocalist) Dan Siskind had a hand in it.

Siskind's childhood love of Legos grew into a career as he founded Brickmania, one of the largest Lego retailers and distributors in America. On top of that, Siskind has designed numerous Lego kits (a blacksmith shop he designed in 1999 was actually bought and produced by Lego) and has made enormous models, including a 26-foot model of a World War II sea vessel that is on display at his store in the Mall of America in Bloomington, MN, that contains half a million Legos.

Check out an image of the blacksmith shop design and this article about Siskind's building endeavors:
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"Kids Of The Black Hole" is one of the standout tracks from the Adolescents eponymous 1981 debut album. The song references an apartment in Fullerton, CA once occupied by Social Distortion vocalist Mike Ness where "No sound is heard from unit two." During the late 1970s The Adolescents and other local punks hung out at this mythical "green mansion." Coincidentally, it was rented out by a vocalist from a different band some twenty years later.

In the early 2000s, Isaac Gollub, former vocalist of SoCal hardcore band A Chorus Of Disapproval, moved into an apartment in Fullerton where he wrote most of the lyrics for his later band A.18's "Dear Furious" LP.

A few years later, while watching the documentary "American Hardcore" he saw the footage of his former apartment building. It was then he realized that he had occupied the legendary "unit two" of the green mansion. In hindsight, he credits his prolific creativity during his time there to this fact.

Check out the video in the following OC Weekly article, where Adolescents' bassist Steve Soto revisits the apartment building and the "Black Hole":
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If you're a fan of New Jersey's straight edge stalwarts Mouthpiece, you've undoubtedly heard of vocalist Tim McMahon's post-Mouthpiece band, Hands Tied. The short-lived band released an EP on Equal Vision Records in 1996. The cover artwork featured a photograph of two hands bound together with rope. And, while the subject of the EPs artwork may not be surprising considering the name of the band, it's connection (and similarity) to another album that came out several years later was a big surprise to us when we heard about it.

When Hands Tied were working on their record, McMahon approached famed hardcore/punk artist Brian "Pushead" Schroeder to do the cover artwork. Pushead agreed, and the concept of the artwork showing hands bound together in some fashion was conceived. The artwork took longer than expected to finish. Whenever McMahon checked in with Pushead about when they would be receiving the artwork, he was met with stories of multiple debacles such as coffee being spilled on the art during the process, forcing the artist to start over and other mishaps. At some point, Hands Tied decided that they couldn't wait for Pushead any longer, and decided to use a photograph on the cover instead of the illustration.

Years later, in 2003, Metallica's "St. Anger" album was released. The cover artwork, drawn by Pushead, was strikingly similar in concept to the artwork Hands Tied had commissioned from the artist. According to lore in the Metallica realm, drummer Lars Ulrich would sometimes show up at Pushead's studio looking for artwork. Ulrich would ask what the artist had "laying around" that may peak his interest, which could explain the artwork that eventually ended up on the "St. Anger" album. Thanks to Chris Bratton for pointing this out to us.

Check out both covers here:
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When So Cal melodic hardcore band Farside went to New York to record their first 7" at Don Fury's studio, they wondered what kind of amp he would use to get the best guitar sound. Everyone in the band was expecting some sort of full stack, but when they asked Fury for his recommendation, he pointed to a small Marshall combo amp and said "GB used that to record all the guitars on Start Today." They were surprised, but with that endorsement, decided to employ it for their record as well. We asked Fury about the amp and he said that it's a Marshall Lead 20 that was used on many, many recordings. He still has the amp, but no longer uses it in the studio. Check out a photo of it here:

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After last week's story about a small amp at Don Fury's studio, we discovered another very interesting tidbit about the legendary engineer and producer. Fury recorded classics from Agnostic Front, Burn, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, Sick Of It All, Underdog and hundreds of other bands in his studio at 18 Spring Street in New York City. But he's not the first member of his family to work in the world of music...

In the 1890s, Fury's great grandfather, Angelo Mannello, was a world renown luthier. He operated multiple factories in New York making mandolins, guitars, mandolas, banjos, ukuleles and even pianos. Two of Mannello's mandolins are on permanent display at New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art.

Almost a century later, Fury's cousin was conducting research on Angelo Mannello and discovered a document showing the address of one of Mannello's first mandolin shops back in 1893: 18 Spring Street! The very same building where Fury's recording studio was busy making hardcore history.

Fury recalls, "I had no idea.. I was shocked, blown away and in awe! Since that day in 1985 when my cousin Michael called me, I knew I had angels on my shoulder - great-grand-dad Angelo and great-grandma Filomena."

Go here to see an advertisement for the mandolin shop:

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We recently told you about the endeavors of Bad Trip vocalist Fred Muench outside of the realm of hardcore. Bad Trip guitarist Marcos Siega also ventured out of the hardcore scene, making a name for himself as a music video, film, and television director/producer.

After Bad Trip, Siega began directing music videos for Blink-182 (nominated for three MTV Video Music Awards), Weezer, Papa Roach, Rival Schools, P.O.D., Anthrax, Paramore, 311, System Of A Down, CIV ("Can't Wait One Minute More"), Shades Apart ("Tainted Love"), and Quicksand ("Delusional" and "Thorn In My Side"), just to name a few.

Siega also directed the feature films "Pretty Persuasion" and "Chaos Theory," and numerous television shows including "Veronica Mars," "Cold Case," "True Blood," "Dexter," "The Vampire Diaries" and "The Following." He also served as a producer on "Charlie's Angels," "Outlaw" and others.

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Outspoken's 1992 LP, "A Light In The Dark," featured a more traditional hardcore sound than the metal-influenced hardcore gaining popularity at the time. But a 2016 re-pressing of the LP included some metal-riffs that you'd never know were in there.

Southern California's New Age Records issued a limited pressing of "A Light In The Dark" on red vinyl for the Jon Bunch Benefit show in 2016. Around the same time, a new vinyl edition of Slayer's "Haunting The Chapel" was also being pressed at the same plant on clear and red splatter vinyl.

Quite a few copies of the Slayer record didn't make it through quality control and had to be recycled. That re-ground vinyl eventually found its way back onto the presses - and into the above-mentioned red copies of the Outspoken LP.

Check out both records, including the re-ground vinyl pellets in the background of the Slayer album on the left side of the image here:
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Nemesis Records is well-known for releasing records from bands such as Reason To Believe, A Chorus Of Disapproval, Insted, Pitchfork, Vision, and countless others. However, the origin of the label's name is a little more obscure.

Owner "Big" Frank Harrison is a long-time fan of comic books and graphic novels. One particular favorite from the early '80s, "Nemesis The Warlock," featured a main character, Nemesis, who was a firebreathing demonic alien fighting against tyranny in the galaxy. Harrison connected with the character's motivation of fighting for the underdog and twice had the character tattooed on his body. Later, when he started a record label, "Nemesis Records" was the only name he ever considered.

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When Nirvana wanted a second guitarist for an upcoming tour, they first considered either Steve Turner from Mudhoney or Buzz Osbourne from The Melvins. But it wasn't until Kurt Cobain walked into a record store at 8847 Sunset Boulevard that they found their man.  
  Georg Ruthenberg, aka Pat Smear, held down regular shifts at the (now-defunct) SST Superstore, even working the cash register for the purchase of a Bl'ast! t-shirt by a future RevHQ staff member. Smear was best known as a founding member of LA's Germs along with Darby Crash, and later played with other punk luminaries such as the Adolescents and 45 Grave.

Cobain hit it off with Smear and asked the guitarist to join the band for their "In Utero" tour. Smear accepted, and later played on their live albums, MTV Unplugged in New York and From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah.

After Cobain's death, Smear joined Dave Grohl in the Foo Fighters, and upon his departure from that band was replaced by fellow-punk rock guitarist Franzl Stahl from Scream.

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If you're a fan of Reason To Believe, you will remember the cover artwork to their LP, "When Reason Sleeps Demons Dance." The liner notes credit the layout and graphics to Shawn Shaffer, but the cover artwork is actually an interpretation of an earlier work by a well-known artist.

The drawing, entitled "The Hand Of God," was originally done by poet, artist and writer Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931). It was used on the cover of the first edition of his book "The Prophet," published in 1923. Having sold over 100 million copies worldwide, it is one of the most popular poetry books ever published.

Thanks to Chris Schuster for pointing this out. Check out the drawings here:
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The Gorilla Biscuits song "Biscuit Power" first appeared on the 7" compilation "Rebuilding" from 1990, and can now be found as a bonus track at the end of their CDs. The majority of the song is sung by vocalist Anthony "Civ" Civorelli, but it also features a few guest vocalists, one of whom we misidentified the last time this crucial issue was covered here fifteen years ago.

With the help of Revelation friend Barrington Thirlway Jr. and GB guitarist Walter Schreifels, we present the updated and (hopefully) complete guest vocalist list for "Biscuit Power."

"Biscuit Power" whispering and "GO!" at the beginning of the song: Walter

The breakdown with "all you punks are dead" etc.: Armand/Sick Of It All

"Gorilla Biscuits in your head": Walter
"One more time and you'll be dead": Armand/Sick Of It All
"Better watch out, better be scared": Alex Brown
"Heading for the dragon's lair": Lukie Luke

No word on who did the gorilla noises.

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We've mentioned the origin of the graphic on the cover to Dag Nasty's "Wig Out At Denko's" LP before, but have you ever wondered where their "burning head" image came from?

For those of you familiar with the band, you'll remember the iconic album cover for 1986's "Can I Say." The stark layout featuring a face in purple and black with two piercing white eyes, is actually a detail taken from a larger piece of artwork.

The original drawing was done by American artist Virgil Finlay who was known for his art in sci-fi, horror and fantasy publications. Titled "Mrs. Amworth," the drawing depicts a character from an E.F. Benson story.

Coincidently, in the same year that "Can I Say" was released, skater Jeff Grosso released a deck through Santa Cruz, with an image inspired by the same artwork.

Check out the original artwork, Dag Nasty album cover, and skateboard deck here:
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If you're a fan of Quicksand, you probably know that vocalist Walter Schreifels pulls double duty and also plays guitar in the band. But, did you know that in Quicksand's infancy, he only sang? It's true.

When Quicksand played live early on, Walter did vocals only, leaving Tom Capone as the sole guitarist. The stylized photo on the first EP's insert even shows Walter performing without a guitar at the NY venue ABC No Rio.

We asked Walter how long the band played in that configuration, and this is what he had to say:

"I must have played at least 15 to 20 shows sans guitar. We played a few or more times in New York, once at the Anthrax, a couple times in Boston, a string of shows in Florida and the tour with Shelter and Inside Out. I also returned to just singing a few times after I had started playing guitar. I believe I did part of our tour with Living Color in Europe on just vocals and others. There was a promo poster with me lead singing that Island made, the photo was from a radio show we did opening for Megadeth at the Ritz. I loved the freedom of just being the singer but once I started playing guitar, it always felt like there was something sonically missingm so eventually I resigned myself to doing both. So, yeah, most were before and during the early stages of the EP being out, though I did return to it. The best era was when Charlie Garriga was playing second guitar, we sounded huge and super tight in my opinion, I barely had lyrics for the non-EP songs, and was mostly making them up on the spot."

Since their first EP only lists the band members' names, with no mention of what they actually did on the recording, we wondered if Walter play guitar on any of the songs. He explained:

"Of course I played guitar! Tom primarily would play the ripping solos and I played most of the rhythms, and more atmospheric/melodic overdubs."

And why the final decision to keep playing guitar in the band:

"I got spoiled with Charlie Garriga in the band, when he left I felt we were missing atmosphere. Also, since I was playing guitar in the rehearsals, the new material sounded weird to me with just one guitar. While I loved being just the lead singer in the final analysis I think it all worked out just fine."

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Last week we told you how Walter Schreifels decided to play guitar in Quicksand instead of only doing vocals. Fans of the band will, of course. be familiar with the artwork their first EP, but the cover concept that we now know and love was originally almost something completely different. Graphic designer and musician Tim Singer (No Escape/Deadguy/Kiss It Goodbye) was approached early on to do the layout, but alas it wasn't meant to be. We asked Tim about it and this is what he had to say:

"I believe Jordan had floated the idea of me designing the Quicksand 7" since I was doing a ton of t-shirt designs, logos and whatnot for all sorts of NYC and Rev bands. I remember looking at the print specs for the 7" and being completely overwhelmed. That experience later prompted my decision to get some formal design training. Anyway, my concept for a record cover was a guy who is chopping down the very tree limb he's standing on. I love the story that tells and graphically it's a very powerful image. I also thought the Quicksand logo should bleed off the bottom like it's sinking. I didn't end up designing the record but I did use that same image for No Escape's demo and t-shirts. Another twist to this story is that No Escape's first show was at the Anthrax opening for Quicksand and Burn [which were] my two favorite bands from that era. So it all sort of came full circle. Crazy to think all three bands are still making music."

Check out the following image showing the No Escape demo where the artwork ended up, along with a later Quicksand logo he designed showing his original concept:
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The cover of Battery's latest release, the "For The Rejected By The Rejected" LP collection, features a stylized photograph of an ominous set of steps under an archway. If you saw it and thought it looked familiar, you're either: A) a fan of horror movies, B) a fan of Southern California hardcore, or C) both.

The steps, located in the Georgetown area of Washington, DC, were first made famous in the horror movie The Exorcist, playing an integral part of the 1973 film's plot. Two decades later, while on tour in 1993, Southern California hardcore band Outspoken took a photo there that appeared on an insert to their swan-song release, "The Current," in 1994. And, some 23 years later, it has now reappeared on the cover of the Battery release.

Check out the image here to see it all in one place:
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I knew it, hardcore is evil. Cool fact! 

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Fireburn's Todd Youth is a hardcore legend and has been the subject of fun facts in the past. He has played guitar with Warzone, Ace Frehley, Glen Campbell, Motorhead and others, and has gone by his nickname "Youth" for much of his career, but you may not know who he got it from.

We've mentioned that John Joseph from the Cro-Mags acquired the nickname "Bloodclot" while touring as a roadie for the Bad Brains. Well, he's not the only one with a Bad Brains-related nickname. According to Todd, when he was about 12 or 13, Bad Brains frontman HR noticed him in the hardcore scene and referred to him as "the youth." And when HR anoints you with a nickname, you keep it, which is why he's been known as Todd Youth ever since.

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If you love "intense hardcore," you may own Revelation Records' thirteenth release: the Slipknot 7" EP.

Like some other punk records of the 80s, the record does not have the standard "side A" and "side B" or "side 1" and "side 2" on the labels. Instead, the record is labeled "side E" and "side D." And if you dig a little deeper and check the matrix, you will notice that "SIDE EVIL" and "SIDE DEAD" are etched in the vinyl. This was in tribute to the fact that the Connecticut band was originally named after the legendary horror movie "Evil Dead," but for reasons unknown, they changed their name to "Slipknot" before the record was released.

The side "E" matrix etching also includes the phrase "You Put All Your Energy Into Your Death," which, as we mentioned here over ten years ago, was the tentative title of the record. This title appeared in an early ad for the release along with unused alternate cover artwork.

Check it out here:
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I told you before; hardcore is evil.

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The 1995 film "The Brady Bunch Movie" brought characters from the quintessential late-'60s/early-'70s TV show forward to the (at the time) present-day. You may have missed it, but did you know there were a couple of references to a classic punk band from the early '80s in the film? It's true...

In one scene, Jan Brady, played by Jennifer Elise Cox, visits the school counselor who asks why she came into the office. The counselor suggests a few different ailments that could be troubling her, including "Suicidal Tendencies," which could be a vague reference to the iconic Venice, CA thrash outfit.

The reference becomes a little more clear later in the film when the Brady kids walk through a mall singing their hit song "Sunshine Day" and pass in front of a wall of televisions. If you look at what's playing on all those TVs in the background, you'll notice that it's the Suicidal Tendencies' "Institutionalized" video, clearly showing vocalist Mike Muir wearing his signature bandana. Were they "f***ing with [us] subliminally" or was there just an ST fan on the crew? Please get in touch if you know anyone who worked on the movie so we can get to the bottom of it!

Thanks to reader Greg W. for pointing this out. Check out a frame from the scene here:

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Fans of '70s and '80s prog/rock may be familiar with English artist Roger Dean, who is most well-known for his record cover artwork for the bands Yes, Asia and others. But there is a Roger Dean-hardcore connection that you might not be aware of.

Besides the myriad album cover art Dean made, he also created the original Virgin Records logo featuring an image of a girl with a mirror reflection, which was used on their stock record labels. In 1973 the logo was reworked for the Virgin sub-label Caroline Records. That sub-label, of course, would eventually reissue the Warzone "Don't Forget The Struggle Don't Forget The Streets" LP in 1988 after the initial Fist Records pressings. Warzone decided to use the original version of the Caroline/Virgin label art on their album, even though it was not generally used by Caroline at that point.

The 2016 Revelation reissue of the Warzone "Don't Forget The Struggle" LP features a tribute to that original label art, with a dual image of a punk girl on the B-side label, paying homage to the past home of the Warzone record on Caroline, and original artist Roger Dean's initial design. Check out a few versions here:

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If you're a fan of crossover thrash, you've probably heard of Venice, CA, stalwarts Excel. But you might not know that the band originally went by a different name.

Before they were called Excel, the band went by the name Chaotic Noise. In late 1984, Chaotic Noise went into the studio to record for "Welcome To Venice," a compilation that Mike Muir from Suicidal Tendencies was putting together for his label, Suicidal Records. During this recording session, Muir suggested to vocalist Dan Clements that the band change their name to better reflect what they were doing musically. Clements had just written a new song called "Excel," and, in a moment of clarity, felt the song title perfectly suited the band.

They recorded three tracks that ended up on the compilation under their new moniker. One of them, "Conclusion," includes Clements screaming "Excel!!!!!" in the middle of the song, mere moments after having changed the name of the band. Check out the following flyer for a benefit show held for the compilation record, which features a young Excel under their original name.

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Orange County, CA hardcore band Outspoken released their swan-song EP "The Current" in 1994. The cover art consists of a photo of water, overlaid by a circular brush-stroke symbol. Outspoken guitarist Mike Hartsfield filled us in on how that symbol ended up on their record cover.

Sometime before the release of the record, Hartsfield had come across a book entitled "Zen Munchkins Little Wisdoms" by D.T. Munda. He thought that the circle graphic on the cover could represent the letter "O" in Outspoken and would make a good logo for the band. They ended up using the symbol on the above-mentioned release, and on t-shirts, flyers and the like.

As a side note, four out of the five band members who played on "The Current" recording got that circle logo as a tattoo - done by former Outspoken bass player, and tattoo artist, Dan Adair.

Check out the record and book cover here:

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The exclamation of the word "GO!" became prevalent in the hardcore scene, especially within the straight edge subset in the mid-'80s. But before Ray Cappo and company screamed out "GO!" in Youth of Today's 1988 "Flame Still Burns," hardcore kids and punkers of yore got their "GO!" on. Here's a list of the earliest appearances of the exclamation in a hardcore or punk song that we could think of (1981 was apparently a big year). Thanks to Ben Edge for his help, and as always, let us know what we forgot.

In 1979, The Damned yell "GO!" at the beginning of "Love Song," the opening track on "Machine Gun Etiquette."

The song "Kids Of The Black Hole" from The Adolescents' famed 1981 "Blue Record" (their self-titled LP) has a youthful "GO!" in it.

The 1981 Black Flag single "Louie Louie/Damaged I" contains a guttural "GO!" from newly anointed vocalist Dez Cadena to start off "Damaged I."

The Exploited added a "GO!" to their cover of Puncture's "Mucky Pup" on their 1981 LP "Punks Not Dead."

GBH belts out a pretty heavy "GO!" to start off the "Leather, Bristles, Studs and Acne" EP (1981) on the song "Race Against Time."

The beginning of Subhumans' first EP, "Demolition War" from 1981, starts with a snarled "GO!" by vocalist Dick Lucas on the song "Parasites."

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Glenn Danzig bellows out a strong "GO!" on "Nike-A-Go-Go" from the Misfits' debut LP, "Walk Among Us" (1982).